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To: realcleanguy

you seem up on this stuff - let me ask - do we know that the training and weapons we provided were given to ISIS or did ISIS simply take them from the groups we supported? Either way the end result is the same and its a fiasco. But what I have been wondering is whether we directly provided weapons to ISIS. It seems indirect to me and easier for the WH to lie their way around it. However if we knew they DIRECTLY gave weapons to ISIS that is a camel of a different color.


10 posted on 08/13/2014 11:59:43 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: plain talk

It is thought widely in Turkey and in Syria that Erdogan like Obama and Hillary have been secretly arming ISL, al-qaeda and salafists factions. The trick here is knowing that all of the groups have shared-in-common goals and lie about everything and are masters of disinformation to the western press -one minute they will be “freedom fighters” and the next they will be full blown terrorists and then once more they will be denouncing each other and claiming that one of their factions is a “zionist agent” of Israel IDF... they are ALL crypto communist islamists and are therefore enemies of the West.


12 posted on 08/13/2014 12:38:29 PM PDT by februus
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To: plain talk

the picture will be a little more clearly in focus in the second installment of that column, but I’ll give you a spoiler.

There is an obvious connection between our support, training and equipping of jihadists in Syria and the exact same tactics and leadership of ISIS in Iraq. Saddam al-Jamal, leader of the FSA Eastern Front and a member of the FSA Staff Board or Supreme Military Council, is now a principal commander in the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant/Syria (ISIL/ISIS).

Obama provided the weapons, supplies and training to the jihadists including al-Jamal, and they used them to murder civilians and Christians in Syria and now they’ve redeployed them in Iraq under the label of ISIS / ISIL, but it’s the same players.


13 posted on 08/13/2014 1:46:18 PM PDT by Noremac (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act – George Orwell)
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