Media "Brown" Out: The Forensics of Ferguson

Self | 8/18/14 | Me

[rolling_stone]

range time is one thing, but when the shtf adrenaline is a big factor

[Molon Labbie]

Most police academies show the Trooper Mark Coates shooting to instruct recruits on how to stay vigilant. Trooper Coates was surprised but still managed to get to the point where he could shoot his assailant 5 times with a .357 revolver with hollow points.

His assailant took those hits and returned to fire with a .22 caliber pistol. The round went through Trooper Coates bicep into his armpit and severed his aorta.

The assailant survived.

[Toespi]

First, all they wanted was the officers name. Then they wanted his picture released. Now they want him arrested and then they will want him convicted and executed.

[hinckley buzzard]

Exactly. It is stupid to focus on the number of shots. Once one begins to shoot, the objective is to kill. The aggressive drive takes over anyway, and achieves its objective. Six shots is mild under the circumstances.

[Yaelle]

I read on another site that the cop has 60 stitches on his face. And a broken eye socket.

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If this is true, this needs to get out. And should shut up every last one of this guy’s supporters.

REALLY??? You should be able to smash a cop’s face in with no repercussions?? Last time I heard one of the Fergusson speeches, they were arguing that he didn’t really take much from the store, that plenty of people do worse crimes and don’t get shot. What do they have to say now? I’d like him killed just for the way he treated that little old man. And to attack an officer in his car with that much violence, he should have been shot to death, brought back to life, and shot to death again. EVEN IF IT WAS MY KID.

[jaydee770]

When I was just starting out, I was fortunate to have some mentors who imparted a *bunch* of invaluable wisdom based on their combined experience.

One thing they all held as a basic tactic is that, if you have to shoot someone, then you should keep shooting until they stop doing whatever it was that made you start shooting in the first place. That could be one shot, or it could be every round in every magazine you are carrying.

So in this case, *IF* it took 6 shots to stop the bad guy, then that’s exactly how many were needed. But the gazillion dollar question that no one has yet answered beyond all reasonable doubt is: Did the bad guy stop after shot 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6? Maybe the evidence & investigation will answer that question. But it’s also possible that the question may never be definitively answered.

[SWAMPSNIPER]

You shoot until they are stopped!

As far as I'm concerned the store clerk had every right to shoot him!

[trebb]

When was the last time any of us were charged by a 6'4" inch, 270 lb 18 year old child with not the sense God gave a pissant. I'd empty my pistol in him as well, most likely - Don't judge

Yep - seems like the only round that didn't need to be fired was the last that hit in the top of the head - probably as the guy finally stumbled from the other shots and the round was likely on the way before the cop could realize the guy was going down.

I tell my wife that if she gets to the point where she needs to shoot, to follow the center of mass even if it's going down and keep squeezing until the slide locks open. Change magazines, close the slide to chamber a fresh round, then think about asking the person if an ambulance will help - if we wanted to take excessive risks, we wouldn't bother being armed.