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Media "Brown" Out: The Forensics of Ferguson
Self | 8/18/14 | Me

Posted on 08/18/2014 5:21:45 PM PDT by xuberalles

Famed forensic pathologist, Dr. Michael Baden: “There is a legitimate concern as to whether the shooting was an overreaction.” Anytime someone is shot six times I don’t have a problem with such an observation. However, if a 6'4”, 282 pound man – who moments earlier robbed a convenience store, strong armed the owner and assaulted Officer Darren Wilson in his own car – is charging your position despite continued warnings to stand down, in a violent neighborhood no less, you're likely to shoot repeatedly...especially if the first shots were of no deterrence. Throw in the fact preliminary reports now show Michael Brown had alcohol and marijuana in his system, not to mention an extremely bitter attitude, and the ingredients of fear, anger and confusion make for an explosive cocktail.

Did Officer Wilson overact? Was it necessary to shoot 6 times? Perhaps; perhaps we’ll never know. But then again, none of us, including Dr. Baden or the St. Louis County Coroner, witnessed the events unfold. What we do know is that the wounds were front-facing, indicative of a face-to-face confrontation, and that a man obviously felt provoked and feared for his life. If the Trayvon Martin tragedy taught us anything – other than a racist President and activist media trying to unduly convict an assault victim for defending himself – it’s that no common sense individual is willing to become a statistic to appease the politically correct left’s victimization agenda. Regardless of the incessant politics and posturing, may justice be done and the forces of hate and demagoguery be held accountable for the destructive aftermath they unapologetically incited.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Government; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: darrenwilson; ferguson; michaelbrown; victimization
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To: mosaicwolf

range time is one thing, but when the shtf adrenaline is a big factor


21 posted on 08/18/2014 7:40:23 PM PDT by rolling_stone (1984)
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To: old curmudgeon

Most police academies show the Trooper Mark Coates shooting to instruct recruits on how to stay vigilant. Trooper Coates was surprised but still managed to get to the point where he could shoot his assailant 5 times with a .357 revolver with hollow points.

His assailant took those hits and returned to fire with a .22 caliber pistol. The round went through Trooper Coates bicep into his armpit and severed his aorta.

The assailant survived.


22 posted on 08/18/2014 7:41:55 PM PDT by Molon Labbie (Prep. Now. Live Healthy, take your Shooting Iron daily.)
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To: M1911A1

First, all they wanted was the officers name. Then they wanted his picture released. Now they want him arrested and then they will want him convicted and executed.


23 posted on 08/18/2014 7:51:01 PM PDT by Toespi
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To: atc23
Exactly. It is stupid to focus on the number of shots. Once one begins to shoot, the objective is to kill. The aggressive drive takes over anyway, and achieves its objective. Six shots is mild under the circumstances.
24 posted on 08/18/2014 7:54:07 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: A Cyrenian

I read on another site that the cop has 60 stitches on his face. And a broken eye socket.


If this is true, this needs to get out. And should shut up every last one of this guy’s supporters.

REALLY??? You should be able to smash a cop’s face in with no repercussions?? Last time I heard one of the Fergusson speeches, they were arguing that he didn’t really take much from the store, that plenty of people do worse crimes and don’t get shot. What do they have to say now? I’d like him killed just for the way he treated that little old man. And to attack an officer in his car with that much violence, he should have been shot to death, brought back to life, and shot to death again. EVEN IF IT WAS MY KID.


25 posted on 08/18/2014 8:00:55 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: xuberalles

When I was just starting out, I was fortunate to have some mentors who imparted a *bunch* of invaluable wisdom based on their combined experience.

One thing they all held as a basic tactic is that, if you have to shoot someone, then you should keep shooting until they stop doing whatever it was that made you start shooting in the first place. That could be one shot, or it could be every round in every magazine you are carrying.

So in this case, *IF* it took 6 shots to stop the bad guy, then that’s exactly how many were needed. But the gazillion dollar question that no one has yet answered beyond all reasonable doubt is: Did the bad guy stop after shot 1, 2, 3, 4, 5 or 6? Maybe the evidence & investigation will answer that question. But it’s also possible that the question may never be definitively answered.


26 posted on 08/18/2014 8:46:43 PM PDT by jaydee770
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To: xuberalles
You shoot until they are stopped!

As far as I'm concerned the store clerk had every right to shoot him!

27 posted on 08/19/2014 12:40:41 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: atc23
When was the last time any of us were charged by a 6'4" inch, 270 lb 18 year old child with not the sense God gave a pissant. I'd empty my pistol in him as well, most likely - Don't judge

Yep - seems like the only round that didn't need to be fired was the last that hit in the top of the head - probably as the guy finally stumbled from the other shots and the round was likely on the way before the cop could realize the guy was going down.

I tell my wife that if she gets to the point where she needs to shoot, to follow the center of mass even if it's going down and keep squeezing until the slide locks open. Change magazines, close the slide to chamber a fresh round, then think about asking the person if an ambulance will help - if we wanted to take excessive risks, we wouldn't bother being armed.

28 posted on 08/19/2014 2:26:31 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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