1 posted on
08/27/2014 8:30:02 AM PDT by
xzins
To: xzins
How can you pardon a non-specified person for an ongoing crime? The rule of law in this country is dead, and has been for quite some time. The abuse is just becoming more blatant now.
To: xzins
It’s a very good question, and I’m pleased to see many papers cautioning him from any illegal acts. Time will tell if Obama is so foolish, I wouldn’t bet that he isn’t.
3 posted on
08/27/2014 8:32:28 AM PDT by
elhombrelibre
(Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
To: xzins
That’s what I was wondering. How would these pardoned undocumented individuals get permission to work? If so, what social security number would be used for their taxes?
How would they apply for a passport to another country?
4 posted on
08/27/2014 8:33:23 AM PDT by
MNDude
To: xzins
No, congress will not, and neither will citizens.
5 posted on
08/27/2014 8:34:06 AM PDT by
chris37
(heartless)
To: xzins
6 posted on
08/27/2014 8:34:16 AM PDT by
Nifster
To: xzins
Will the Pardon cover everyone in World ? lol
7 posted on
08/27/2014 8:38:43 AM PDT by
molson209
(Blank)
To: xzins
La Raza sent a lot of Pesos to Obama and now they want delivery.
8 posted on
08/27/2014 8:39:12 AM PDT by
Don Corleone
("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
To: xzins
But the pardon only lasts, if I am right, for the one crime. Continued illegal status is not pardoned...unless he says “I pardon you for all illegal status until you’re legal.”
That’d be a disgusting move, one that ought to engender congressional punishment. From both parties.
LOL.
To: xzins
Who does have the authority to issue a work permit? I would be that Congress has given that authority to the Executive—never thinking blanket permits would be issued.
And non-specific groups of people have been pardoned—the draft dodgers back in ‘77 by Carter.
10 posted on
08/27/2014 8:45:06 AM PDT by
Vermont Lt
(Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
To: xzins
I don't think any of that is relevant to what the Sultan might do and what he can get away with. Congress will not oppose him substantially. The courts take so long that an adverse decision will have no effect on reality on the ground. Congress will feel compelled to regularize by passing a law that grants legally what the Sultan has already granted and many elections will have already been decided by all the new voters. I expect that there is a good chance that the Sultan will go for the whole cheese and decree citizenship to be immediately followed by flooding the country with agents to insure that they all get registered and vote while the government leans heavily on the states that balk. What the Constitution says and what the Courts or Congress might say, if he goes all the way, will be irrelevant. The accession to a throne will be complete. I hope that the man'ṣ(sic) reported cowardice will keep him from doing that.
12 posted on
08/27/2014 8:55:25 AM PDT by
arthurus
(Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINE http://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
To: xzins
INA Asylum, Section 208
(b) Conditions for Granting Asylum. - (1) In general.
- 4/ (A) ELIGIBILITY- The Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General may grant asylum to an alien who has applied for asylum in accordance with the requirements and procedures established by 4/ the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General under this section if 4/ the Secretary of Homeland Security or the Attorney General determines that such alien is a refugee within the meaning of section 101(a)(42)(A) .
So, according to the Law the Atty General or Sec HS can determine the procedures and requirements for establishing asylum for aliens.
Do you think Obama might be able to convince either of those guys to make some changes to the procedures and requirements?
13 posted on
08/27/2014 8:55:59 AM PDT by
Vermont Lt
(Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
To: xzins
Congress better not grant status to these illegals.
16 posted on
08/27/2014 8:58:15 AM PDT by
freekitty
(Give me back my conservative vote; then find me a real conservative to vote for)
To: xzins
It is time for states to simply tell O to shove it and that they will not even recognize any executive action relating to this.
18 posted on
08/27/2014 9:00:50 AM PDT by
TMA62
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20 posted on
08/27/2014 9:03:22 AM PDT by
DJ MacWoW
(The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
To: xzins
Every Obama voter job is being replaced with a immigrant and they still love him now tell me something isn’t in the water they drink.
22 posted on
08/27/2014 9:07:53 AM PDT by
Vaduz
To: xzins
Only if a Republican or Conservative is ever elected President again.
28 posted on
08/27/2014 10:25:05 AM PDT by
sport
To: xzins
"Obama Can Grant Pardon But He Can't Grant Immigration Status: Will Congress Stand Up for Its Power?" Now that was funny, thanks for the laugh of the day, "Congress Stand Up for Its Power", great comic line, you should send it to SNL.
29 posted on
08/27/2014 10:28:30 AM PDT by
The_Republic_Of_Maine
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To: xzins
32 posted on
08/27/2014 10:59:43 AM PDT by
CPT Clay
(Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
To: xzins
These former illegals would have the status of 'pardoned for illegal entry.' But the continuing status of being in this country illegally.
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