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I found this analysis very interesting. Perhaps China experts here on FR can comment on it.
1 posted on 08/31/2014 8:05:08 PM PDT by marktwain
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I’m not an economist, but I thought this would happen some time ago. I fear they won’t go quietly. I think a war with China is inevitable.


2 posted on 08/31/2014 8:10:36 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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He certainly has spammed that same message across the web. He could fill in as a columnist at the epoch times.


3 posted on 08/31/2014 8:11:27 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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Obama is hoping to collapse America first.


5 posted on 08/31/2014 8:12:45 PM PDT by G Larry (I'm tired of people not recognizing sarcasm!)
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“Therefore its state-controlled brainwashing education and propaganda machinations ensure a complete lack of morals and regard for laws in all Chinese growing up and beyond.”

bingo. if you didn’t know why they let our education system rot in the gutter, you should now.


7 posted on 08/31/2014 8:14:57 PM PDT by willywill
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Went to China two years ago. A lot of the modernization that that is going on there is substandard to say the least. Saw a university campus that was less than 5 years old that was already falling apart. You see new [largely empty] apartment buildings next to hovels. And the pollution is out of control. They have a lot more problems than is being advertised.


9 posted on 08/31/2014 8:15:37 PM PDT by rbg81
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and do not forget that it is also the most polluted place on Earth


10 posted on 08/31/2014 8:18:12 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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Hope it’s true. China is funding so much of our debt that so if we can get a new regime in there perhaps they’ll forgive a big chunk of it.

Gee, if communism collapses in China does that make the Obama White House the largest communist power left?


11 posted on 08/31/2014 8:18:21 PM PDT by OrangeHoof (Every time you say no to a liberal, you make the Baby Barack cry.)
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ping


12 posted on 08/31/2014 8:18:26 PM PDT by laplata (Liberals don't get it .... their minds are diseased.)
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I like the analysis and the writing.

It’s all true, except the most important thing. It’s unfortunately wishful thinking that we will soon see the demise of the CCP ruled China.


13 posted on 08/31/2014 8:18:32 PM PDT by ifinnegan
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China has a rapidly aging population and a very materialist one at that. They aren’t prepared to overturn the government - not even close. The fact they are losing low-wage, low skill jobs is the same process the US has gone through. Economic development and a declining work-force mean typical farming families rural provinces now doesn’t need to send their children 500 miles away for a job making sneakers for Americans. Economic development makes people more content, not the other way around.

I can’t argue that China has built up a huge amount of domestic debt, and also that there is massive government corruption, based on government and political involvement in all aspects of the economy (the same way the US is heading).

But China is not Bolivia, Argentina or some other toy of Wall Street. They print their own currency, hold their own debt. They hold a lot of foreign debt too. So, the Chinese Government is beholden to no one. They have a lot more leverage over others, than others have over them.


16 posted on 08/31/2014 8:23:48 PM PDT by PGR88
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Thanks for posting. It's a long read I'll have to get to it later. All things Red China are of great interest to me. Thanks again.

Red China's ascension to Number One super economic and all around everything super-super power like none seen before or ever again, scheduled for next Tuesday afternoon (about tea time), has been delayed.

'Apears that the days of free-tradin' our technology and knowhow away for cheap labor are over. In fact Deng's version of Lenin's New Economic Policy has only the confiscation of the useful idiots' holdings left to do.

I am not an expert but every great leap forward onto the backs of millions of citizens killing them was a contemporaneous event for me.. every one beginning with Mao's "agrarian reformers" taking over.

Even in the 1940s before Mao my Grandmother insisted that China would be the world's greatest power. Even as a child I did not think so.

19 posted on 08/31/2014 8:32:03 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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Having to un-pin the ruan and trying to maintain demand as exports drop are tough challenges for a centrally planned economy.


22 posted on 08/31/2014 8:45:15 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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Well, there is only one remedy.

Bring jobs back now. That will save them.

23 posted on 08/31/2014 8:53:45 PM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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I have said for MANY years that Wal-Mart will be a major factor in the collapse of the Chinese economy. Virtually everything sold to Wal-Mart and other major retailers is sold at a loss because the manufacturers are subsidized by the Chinese government. That can’t go on forever.

As for the U.S. debt the Chinese holds, they will have to discount it significantly if they ever decide to sell it in large numbers.


25 posted on 08/31/2014 9:08:26 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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paid Chinese propaganda professional commenters

You see paid Obama propaganda professional commenters here on several web sites.

28 posted on 08/31/2014 9:16:19 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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If Chinese communism lasts as long as Soviet communism, it’s got another five years.


31 posted on 08/31/2014 9:29:17 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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There are a couple of things I don’t agree with, but on the whole I agree with it. We rightly complain about our debt, but their debt is much larger. This article also doesn’t go into their water and energy issues, which are substantial.


34 posted on 08/31/2014 9:43:15 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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Just, wow!


35 posted on 08/31/2014 9:46:02 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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Awesome post — underlines just how much our current leadership loves, mimics and idolizes Red China.


39 posted on 08/31/2014 10:16:58 PM PDT by hemogoblin
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I found this analysis very interesting. Perhaps China experts here on FR can comment on it.

Everything stated is probably true, however that is not the underlying reason for the Chinese collapse. It is the one child demographics. The population of China is inverting. One child. Two parents. Four grandparents. Six elderly dependents. One marriage equals twelve elderly dependents. There is no social security or medicare in China. The dragon in the living room is actually an elephant.
40 posted on 08/31/2014 10:19:14 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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