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Homosexuality Has No Genetic Cause
BarbWire ^ | September 5, 2014 | Jonathon Moseley

Posted on 09/07/2014 7:07:57 PM PDT by WXRGina

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To: WXRGina

” Being ‘born’ homosexual is a medical impossibility unless there is a specific gene causing it.”


What a moron.

Being born ANYTHING isn’t medically impossible even if it isn’t in the genes. Sheesh. Where has this idiot been since epigenetics has been a serious field of study??

Quite honestly, there may be many conditions beginning in utero, due to exposure there.


81 posted on 09/07/2014 9:09:15 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: WXRGina

The first few lines show a dramatic misunderstanding of genetics. A gay gene, if it existed and I dont believe it does, would not quickly burn out if it was recessive. In fact if it existed it being recessive would be the most likely explanation for its existence. Not to mention a lot of homosexuals try and pretend to be straight, including having a wife and children. So yeah I dont wish to read this article when it starts with a breathtakingly bad statement.


83 posted on 09/07/2014 9:11:27 PM PDT by aft_lizard
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To: WXRGina

Not news.


84 posted on 09/07/2014 9:15:24 PM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: WTFOVR

Again I am not arguing for the existence of a homo gene but merely that the author’s argument is bad science.


85 posted on 09/07/2014 9:18:52 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: WXRGina

Not all homosexuals started out that way, many got sucked into it...


86 posted on 09/07/2014 9:23:16 PM PDT by null and void (If Bill Clinton was the first black president, why isn't Barack Obama the first woman president?)
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To: coloradan

...A suicide gene has been identified. How come that hasn’t died out?....

Exactly, a weak point on the authors part.


87 posted on 09/07/2014 9:26:33 PM PDT by WILLIALAL
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To: the OlLine Rebel

Jonathon Moseley

“Jonathon Moseley is a co-host with the “Conservative Commandos Radio Show,” on-line Editor for the American Uncensored News Network’s website (AUN-TV), and a member of the Northern Virginia Tea Party. He has worked and volunteered in political campaigns since 1984, including serving as Campaign Manager in 2008 for Christine O’Donnell’s nomination contest running against Joe Biden for U.S. Senate. Moseley studied Physics at Hampshire College, earned a degree in Finance from the University of Florida and a law degree from George Mason University in Virginia. Moseley’s day job is as a Virginia attorney working as in-house counsel for a company shipping jewelry.”

I agree with you that who would choose to be gay? Its a crappy lifestyle and generally an unhappy way to live.

This guy Mosely is about as competent on the subject of genetics as I am on the subject of cold fusion. The guy is an attorney for a shipping company for God’s sake. Why is anybody even listening to him? I’m still laughing.


88 posted on 09/07/2014 9:37:30 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: WXRGina

The choice to be attracted toward the same sex or gender is based upon what is intellectually acceptable. Period!

The chemistry of attraction is based upon the masculine vs feminine aspect of the psyche or consciousness, irregardless of gender.

Even in same sex relationships, one partner is dominant masculine and one is dominant feminine. The problem is that opposites of dominant consciousness attract, not opposites of gender.

If it is not intellectually acceptable for a person who’s dominant aspect of consciousness is opposite their gender to enter a same sex relationship, they will merely find a person of the opposite gender who has also shifted and enter a relationship with them.

Thus a straight feminine man will enter a relationship with a masculine female. It’s been this way forever.

The Rosie the Riveters or dominant females tend to develop more masculine psyches. In a single parent household the child often develops a co-dependency with the single parent and then develops as the compliment of the strong parent personality rather than developing their own pre-disposition. I’ve even noticed delayed puberty in children in these situations.

I work with many gays and lesbians to help them resolve psychological issues. I’ve even presented to gay and lesbian groups. I explain to them what causes the “chemistry” and even demonstrate why in front of the group. I do not judge them, but help them to understand themselves.

Body chemistry is a function of the epigenetic influence of consciousness. This is also why placebos work.

Everything I have stated is easy to demonstrate in a controlled scientific setting. It really is much simpler than people make it out to be.


89 posted on 09/07/2014 9:51:25 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: WXRGina

Unfortunately, the idiot doesn’t know what he’s talking about. It is VERY possible for a gene that causes an inability to have offspring to perpetuate itself. Hence, inherited diseases. First and most simply, most genes are variably expressed. That is, they have a greater or lesser effect due to other conditions and combinations with other genes.

Genes may also prevent reproduction when homozygous (both sets of sets of DNA contain the certain gene), but be beneficial when heterozygous (only one set of DNA has the gene). The beneficial condition may only occur sporadically; for instance the gene that causes sickle-cell anemia when homozygous helps prevent malaria when heterozygous.

The genes may also help relatives who share the gene but do not express it survive.

The simplest way to demonstrate that homosexuality has no genetic cause is the simple fact that it does not run in families. In a purely genetic trait, a homosexual’s brother would be 50% likely to be homosexual, and an identical twin brother would be certain to be homosexual. Instead, we see only slightly elevated rates of homosexuality among the siblings of homosexuals, in a pattern more suggestive of environmental factors, or at least environmental triggers.


90 posted on 09/07/2014 9:51:51 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Old North State
Could the action of several genes or gene defects produce homosexual behavior? Perhaps, but that is speculation, and runs afoul of the general evolutionary principle that in the long run genetic outcomes that reduce successful reproduction are eventually removed from the pool.

The general evolutionary principle does not apply to the misexpression of genes because misexpression is not carried forward in the genes.

Hermaphroditism is an example of this.

Hermaphrodite’s genes are perfectly normal however during fetal development their bodies do not develop correctly and they can not reproduce.

Yet hermaphrodites continue to occur in the population as they have throughout history.

But I still assert that the arguments made be the author are bad science. Perhaps he can make other arguments to support his assertions that are valid I don’t know.

It may be that some environmental factor could trigger a gene that normally would do some other function or do nothing at all malfunctions to express as homosexual desire.

I do think that some but not all homosexuals are born that way. There are simply too many reports of children expressing homosexual proclivity at a very early age to discount the occurrences.

91 posted on 09/07/2014 9:59:36 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
If someone ever discovered a homosexuality gene there are many parents who would abort babies that had it.

take out a patent ... i think you've just discovered the latest and greatest hate crime

92 posted on 09/07/2014 10:08:28 PM PDT by TheRightGuy (I want MY BAILOUT ... a billion or two should do!)
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To: WXRGina

Most homosexuals are not born that way. They just get sucked into it.


93 posted on 09/07/2014 10:19:33 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: WXRGina

bkmk


94 posted on 09/07/2014 11:21:52 PM PDT by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Trapper6012

Have you ever really gotten to know any gays? The males are usually very feminine and the females are usually very masculine. They are born that way, but they could still choose not to live that way. They could remain celibate, like many heterosexuals are after they have been married many decades. I think the only thing that really bothers me about heteros complaining about gays, is that so many heteros have had premarital sex, extramarital sex, or divorces, etc. That is all the same kind of sin


95 posted on 09/08/2014 3:58:14 AM PDT by buffyt (Glowbull warming, the greatest hoax ever perpetrated on humanity, UNTIL WE GOT OBAMA!)
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To: imardmd1
Woo-woo — where does the lesbian gene come from? same place as the sodomite gene?

And the transvestite gene (you know the one that commands people who are born naked to dress in the clothing of the opposite sex in that culture) and the BDSM gene (the one that says construct torture devices and safe words "because 'NO' doesn't really mean 'no'").

Consult a Planned Parenthood guidance counselor if there are still any questions.

96 posted on 09/08/2014 6:44:34 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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To: Beowulf9
well, what about the gene that makes them talk that way?;)

Assimilation is what makes them talk that way just as "valley teen" speak or "ebonics" is attained through cultural conditioning.

There are men in heterosexual relationships who go full bore flamboyant in gestures and voice when they make the "switch".

97 posted on 09/08/2014 6:46:54 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (ISIS has started up a slave trade in Iraq. Mission accomplshed, Barack, Mission accomplished.)
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To: logitech

ping


98 posted on 09/08/2014 6:47:00 AM PDT by WXRGina (The Founding Fathers would be shooting by now.)
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To: WXRGina
"Scientists have not found a "gay gene", but have announced there is a genetic marker responsible for being a neat, snappy dresser with an eye for window treatments"

But seriously: Every homosexual I have ever known who has been candid has revealed that he was molested as a child by an older man.

EVERY. SINGLE. ONE.

This is the real way they are created: by molestation.

99 posted on 09/08/2014 8:33:39 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan
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To: Slambat

Ooooooh! That’s cold.

but I agree.


100 posted on 09/08/2014 10:46:02 AM PDT by chesley
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