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To: Belteshazzar

Yet, the Germans embraced it.


23 posted on 10/09/2014 10:21:01 AM PDT by sakic
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To: sakic

First, what exactly is “it”?

Second, what are Americans embracing in our day? Everything good? We are on a path not dissimilar to that of the Germans in the 20’s and 30’s. There is a path to societal depravity. It increases in steepness the farther you walk it. So far, the constitutional basis of our governance, our traditions built on it, and our two centuries of practice - things which the Germans did not have! - have somewhat protected us. But we are busy shedding the wisdom and decency of those who went before us in our infinite wisdom (!).

Aim your cannons at an appropriate target and make sure your aim is true. I do not see in what you have written much that indicates you know how to hit the targets that should be hit.


28 posted on 10/09/2014 10:39:49 AM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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To: sakic

First, I doubt whether you have read with any serious intent anything of Lutheran theology.

Second, Luther is not the determiner of Lutheran theology and practice. That would be the Bible and the Book of Concord of 1580. Look there. You will find nothing supporting your claims.

Third, consider the top leadership of the Nazi Party and the government over which it presided:

A. Adolf Hitler - reared in a Catholic family.
B. Hermann Goering - reared in a mixed family, but with Catholic roots.
C. Josef Goebbels - reared in a Catholic family.
D. Heinrich Himmler - reared in a Catholic family.
E. Reinhard Heydrich - reared in a Catholic family.

Where is the Luther connection?

But does this mean that the Catholic church is to be blamed for the atrocities of these criminals? NO! In no way! These men were no more Catholic than they were Lutheran. THEY WERE NOT CHRISTIAN! They were Darwinists, everyone of them. They were eugenicists. They were arrogant, racial bigots of the very worst sort. They rejected Christianity utterly. They only used Christian language as it suited them to hide their real intentions. They played on the historical fact - FACT! - of European anti-semiticism which far, far predated them and penetrated virtually every nation in Europe, and, sad to say, still exists (and which Muslims are exploiting even today). And they played on the worst tendencies of their own people, using the time-tested method of inspiring hate in the have-nots toward others in order to blame those others for the conditions in which the economically hurting German lower classes lived. They also exploited the feeling among the Germans that they have been betrayed by their own government in WWI. And meanwhile, the Soviet Union was busy spreading disinformation to help disintegrate Europe’s Christian foundation and prepare it for the revolution that Marx, Engels, Lenin, and Stalin all sought.

Is hate of others and the inspiring of hate toward others Christian in any sense? NO! It is absolutely, fundamentally the opposite of Christian teaching. It is anti-Christian. And that is who the Nazis were.

Does any of this look similar to things happening today?


30 posted on 10/09/2014 11:14:01 AM PDT by Belteshazzar (We are not justified by our works but by faith - De Jacob et vita beata 2 +Ambrose of Milan)
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