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To: sakic

Your focus is too much on the Jews. No doubt, they suffered most under National Socialism. However, Luther’s opposition to Judaism and Hitler’s opposition to Jews are two different things. Luther opposed the Jewish faith on religious grounds, mainly that they rejected Christ. Hitler opposed them on economic and political grounds. Furthermore, Hitler’s views on blood and race went well beyond the Jews. He viewed Eastern Europeans, who were largely Christians of one variety or another, as members of lesser races. Thus the cult of National Socialism, as set up by the Reich Church, focused on the superiority of Germans over not just Jews but also their Eastern European Christian neighbors. This is well beyond Luther’s religious opposition to the Jews.


57 posted on 10/10/2014 4:20:28 AM PDT by LeoMcNeil
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To: LeoMcNeil
However, Luther’s opposition to Judaism and Hitler’s opposition to Jews are two different things.

True, however they both advocated the same outcome for the Jews, camps and then a death sentence, albeit Hitler had technological advances while Luther, at least at one time, offered Jews some kind of life if they converted to his religious movement. He might even have spared Jewish Catholics (until the Thirty Years War), while Hitler eventually included anyone with Jewish grandparents in the camps if death. Was Hitler more wicked than Luther ? yes; was Luther used as a source and justification for the Nazi program ? Yes; were others culpable ? Yes; the pope at that time concluded an agreement with the Nazis to preserve the Gentile Catholics, albeit he may have thought he would spare Jewish Catholics but abandoned the Jews, as did the whole world; he missed a great opportunity to stand up for the Gospel as a witness to the nations.

In the end, the adversary's plan was thwarted; the Jews survived and re stablished the state of Israel in the land of Israel, a most unplanned event by all the haters of Jewry. It still rankles them to this day and they may not know why.

65 posted on 10/10/2014 8:30:15 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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