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1 posted on 12/06/2014 7:59:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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Nope. I haven’t seen a single protester or been inconvenienced in any way. The media show has been an a small handful of cities but the other 99% of the country has been completely unaffected.


2 posted on 12/06/2014 8:02:15 PM PST by cripplecreek (You can't half ass conservatism.)
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IMHO I think all of the police in NYC should admit that they are cruel and insensitive and take 30 days off to reflect upon their sins. Give the people what they want, no police to brutalize them.


5 posted on 12/06/2014 8:15:10 PM PST by Oshkalaboomboom
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It is part of the leftist war on tobacco.


6 posted on 12/06/2014 8:17:07 PM PST by gusopol3
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This is so idiotic. Are cigarette taxes too high in NYC? ALL taxes are too high in NYC, which is why I no longer live there.

But that’s a separate issue.

Eric Garner’s cigarettes were not “tax free” because he was exempted from taxes for doing a charitable service to the bums and the poor; they were “tax free” because they came from organized crime rings, which in NYC at the moment are either Mafia or Middle Eastern jihadi support groups, and were stolen or smuggled to make them “tax free.”

Of course, he sold them outside the door of a legal business owner who actually paid the taxes and fees, not only on tobacco but on his other goods, and if the convenience store prices were higher, it was because of the need to compensate for crime. Neither cigarettes nor anything else is taxed higher in a ghetto neighborhood, but store owners have to charge more because of the costs of doing business.

Also, Garner and all of the others like him would shake down the local business owners and would also threaten them if they complained about the “tax free” cigarette selling activities in front of the doors of their store, and Garner had already been arrested many times for that (and emerged unharmed and barely punished, which shows you why he wasn’t afraid to attack an officer this time around).

Even the neighbors had complained, because having somebody standing outside the local store (where you and your kids go for milk or detergent) saying “Smoke, smoke” is the sure sign of an out of control ghetto neighborhood, and attracts all the lowlifes, bums, underage thugs, and, in fact, drug dealers around.

Taxes are a separate issue...btw, the Mafia and jihadi groups have made a huge fortune off of selling or forcing small gas station owners to sell “untaxed” gasoline. This means gas from stolen tanker trucks, where they have occasionally found that they needed to kill the driver to get the shipment. I believe a couple of years ago, one driver of a cigarette shipper was killed when they stole his truck, but I can’t find the exact incident.


8 posted on 12/06/2014 8:21:51 PM PST by livius
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The Arab spring protests toppled governments, anyone seriously believe the composition of even the Ferguson city council will look substantially different six months from now?


9 posted on 12/06/2014 8:22:42 PM PST by jz638
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The purpose of the current Martin/Brown/Garner protests and media propaganda is to federalize local LE, further empowering the federal government.

Don't fall for it.

Question all reports of local LE abuse, get ALL the facts and think for your self.

10 posted on 12/06/2014 8:39:05 PM PST by FreeReign
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American Spring already passed with the Occutards.


11 posted on 12/06/2014 8:41:38 PM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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This whole event and story around it is typical new world order trickery, a conundrum for the sheeple to solve.

The evil rotten scum elites think the sheeple are so dumb they will never solve the conundrum. The elites think they are geniuses because they’ve come up with this.

It’s a false choice.

We are told by this story that there are two sides and we have to choose one or the other: either we support the arrest or we are against the arrest.

But there are two separate issues, with sub-issues:

1) the arrest - you either support or oppose HOW the arrest was effected

2) oppressive laws and taxes - you either think the arrest was warranted or you think the arrest should not have even happened in the first place

a) is the high cigarette tax unjust, should we get rid of tobacco laws
b) mixed in with conversation about legalizing marijuana

The trick:

If you SUPPORT the ARREST, you’re being a “good conservative” and supporting the idea of upholding the LAW, even if you disagree with it. Go change it at the ballot box (they neglect to mention that the choices on the ballot are controlled by the elites) ! But by saying this, you are implicitly supporting the idea that it’s acceptable that for minor infractions of the law - sometimes suspects will accidentally be killed by police. Real smart sheeple - wait until that turns against YOU.

If you OPPOSE the ARREST, you’re being a “good libertarian” and saying you do not support excessive use of force - especially for minor infractions of the law. But guess what the banker minions have set up for you - you’ve implicitly agreed that the arrest was for a minor infraction - and then Mr. Liar Bankster then welcomes your opposition to the “excessive” cigarette tax (which it certainly is) then trips on down Liar’s Lane a few more steps and has you agreeing that you think MARIJUANA is also a similar small infraction.

You can see the trolling here on FR. For WEEKS, thousands of posts.

Agree with some, bash others. Keep inching step by step - in EITHER OF TWO directions:

You’re either supporting the movement towards a Gestapo

or you’re supporting legalizing drugs.

To the scumbag elites:

no, we don’t support a totalitarian police state with it’s excessive police force, and

no, we don’t support legalizing drugs to complete the destruction of the minds of ourselves and our progeny, and

no, we don’t support the idea of our government overlords will tax or declare illegal, alcohol, tobacco, coffee, tea or anything else that we’ve enjoyed as one of life’s simple pleasures for centuries, and

no, we don’t support public drunkenness.

We will continue to speak out on issues independent of each other if they are combined in little conundrums, and we will speak the truth about Christian liberty as far and wide as possible.

That concludes today’s lesson on “An example of how various elite-backed NGOs foment movements so the sheeple will accept the destruction of their own nation and not realize that a few wealthy globalist elite families/organizations are the ones step-by-step marching them towards a horrific wasteland police state where the sheeple are attacked constantly by both criminals and police”.

Sorry for the rant, but I hate the evil that is totalitarianism backed by financial elites.

The people of the UK and Europe should have cleaned house of these elites a long time ago - the American people need to clean house as well.


13 posted on 12/06/2014 10:45:21 PM PST by PieterCasparzen (We have to fix things ourselves)
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COULTER ON GARNER INCIDENT: ‘DO NOT STAND BETWEEN A LIBERAL AND HIS TAXES’

Killed By Big Government

Read more: http://www.headlineoftheday.com/#ixzz3LD7lprwL


14 posted on 12/07/2014 3:32:22 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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