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To: nathanbedford

“...is to run around end, reform Washington not from inside where it is impossible but from outside in the state legislatures where there is at least some chance of overcoming these overwhelming forces.”

I agree that your analysis could work, but I don’t think it will work as the pols are entrenched and have a voting base to stay that way. Not to mention how they watch each others’ backs, vote “no,” vote “yes,” then cry, “See I tried to stop it.”

My opinion is the only way(s) to fix this is either a third party, or your basic out with the old and in with the new in D.C.

The next few years will be absolutely fascinating.


46 posted on 12/11/2014 7:57:06 PM PST by Obstinate (Pack the Constitution & build Mayflower II; this place is toast. Going Galt? Going Constitutional.)
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To: Obstinate
I agree that your analysis could work, but I don’t think it will work as the pols are entrenched and have a voting base to stay that way.

I agree with your assessment that it could work but probably won't work but not for the same reason you advance. The idea of moving the fight to the state legislatures is to do battle on more favorable ground, where the same forces which overcome us in Washington are not so strong.

That is not to say that state legislators have more virtue than federal legislators, I believe they are equally corrupt but they are corrupted in a different way. We don't escape human nature by moving the battle to the state legislatures we simply fight a different kind of war and with a different set of players.

The real appeal to them is the same appeal in Washington, to acquire power. To get that power they will have to take it away from Washington and bring it home. It will divide power and restore Montesquieu's vision of separation of powers.

Even so, I am pessimistic unless we are visited by a Black Swan which breaks open the box we are in.


53 posted on 12/11/2014 8:08:29 PM PST by nathanbedford ("Attack, repeat, attack!" Bull Halsey)
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To: Obstinate

Form a third party and invite true conservatives in office to join. You will immediately see the rinos voting with the democrats. This will out them. Then, maybe, we can vote them out and replace them with third party candidates.

We tried to run conservatives against them in the primaries. How many did we win? One!


103 posted on 12/11/2014 11:17:07 PM PST by VerySadAmerican
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