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To: Secret Agent Man
My comments have nothing to do with "belief", although it is clear that yours do.

You wrote: There are no people that take crack, heroin or meth that can control their drug use. They all turn into addicts from these drugs. Everyone who takes them says it only took one time to get hooked, they’re that strong.

These statements are false. While these drugs are quite addictive, not everyone who uses heroin, crack and/or methamphetamine becomes an addict the first time they use the drug. If that were the case then NONE of these drugs would have a legitimate medical use - but two of them do.

The fact (not "belief", FACT) is that only a very small minority of users suffer addiction upon first usage of any drug.

My comment regarding nicotine was based on the fact that the highly addictive nature of crack, methamphetamine and heroin is shared with nicotine (look it up if you do not believe me). It ranks right up there with heroin and methamphetamine, with only crack cocaine being considered MORE addictive.

118 posted on 12/22/2014 12:29:50 PM PST by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: WayneS

Your medical uses argument is specious. Addicts are not taking them for medical reasons, nor do they have doctor supervision or prescriptions nor dosing instructions.

And if you’re complaining that I use the term “all” and “never” too severely, I can amend that to “almost all” and “almost never”. And you know it’s correct. these substances are highly, highly addictive because that’s the point. these substances take away people’s ability to not take them if they don’t want to. Far more than a beer does. far more than one cigarette does.

You have to develop tolerances to cigarettes and alcohol because they taste like crap the first times. you have to force yourself to develop tastes for cigarettes and beer and some people never get over that.

The evidence is clear that most people who drink can live with alcohol in their lives without becoming a danger to themselves and/or others, without it becoming a serious problem to them or others, in one way or another. Not true at all for meth users, crack users, or heroin users.

And we should just end it now because nothing either you or I say is going to be satisfactory to the other. So Merry Christmas and let’s move on to better things.


119 posted on 12/22/2014 12:56:48 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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