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To: Fred Nerks
And just what do you think might be inside those folders marked 'births' in the archives?

Well, why don't you tell me.

Obviously, either the long forms themselves or contemporaneous copies thereof. Hopefully there are backups somewhere other than the island of Oahu.

Now what do you suppose the HDoH physically did in order to provide Judy Corley with those two certified copies she carried back to the White House?

Obviously, somebody descended down into the stacks, found the volume containing the long forms for August 1961, took it off the shelf, turned to Obama's form, pressed it down onto the copier, made two copies, then signed and stamped them. Duh! Those copies are what they turned over when Ms. Corley showed up to collect them!

172 posted on 01/24/2015 10:31:46 PM PST by cynwoody
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To: cynwoody

So far, so good. It’s how the document got there that’s of interest.


173 posted on 01/24/2015 10:38:06 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: cynwoody
Obviously, somebody descended down into the stacks, found the volume containing the long forms for August 1961, took it off the shelf, turned to Obama's form, pressed it down onto the copier, made two copies, then signed and stamped them. Duh! Those copies are what they turned over when Ms. Corley showed up to collect them!

I have a different theory. Back when I was keeping up with this issue, I noted seven different bits of evidence which indicated that Obama was adopted by Lolo Soetoro back in 1964 or so.

The normal process in such cases is for a court to place the original under a court seal, and order the issuance of a replacement birth certificate. When Barry went to live with his grandparents ~ 1970 or so, some form of legal guardianship had to be created. It has been proposed that Obama Sr showing up in 1971 at the same time Stanley Ann just happened to be visiting from Indonesia, was there for the purpose of asserting his parental rights and annulling the previous adoption.

If this be the case, then another court order would issue for another seal and another replacement birth certificate, or perhaps just a COLB.

My theory is that what we see as the "official" birth certificate is nothing but a computer generated replacement birth certificate designed to look like one from 1961. There are issues with it that have nothing to do with layers. One of the most prominent is the spacing of letters. Some are off horizontally and some are off vertically. A typewriter cannot do this unless someone loosens the rollers from the platen. Given the numerous examples of where characters don't line up properly and in so many different places, it is improbable that someone would have removed the document or loosened the rollers from the platen so many times.

The most glaring problem with it is the certification which is *NOT* the certification Hawaii used in 1961. In 1961 Hawaii certified birth certificates by saying "...true and correct copy of the original document..."

Nowadays they say "True and correct copy of the document on file or an abstract thereof." Basically a meaningless certification.

The 1961 statement was unequivocally and unambiguous. The modern certification just means that it says the same thing as the documents *THEY PLACED* in their files.

212 posted on 01/26/2015 8:41:30 PM PST by DiogenesLamp
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