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To: Thistooshallpass9
Iran's theocratic leaders believe that they cannot win a war with the USA, but that they must prove to their moon god that they are willing to try hard enough so that he will favor them and give them his support.

They believe they will usher in their new age if they engage the Great Satan in a fight they should not be able to win.

MAD (mutually assured destruction) does not apply to Iran, and our State Department is so secular that they routinely discount any sincere religious belief that may motivate the Iranians. Fools. Because we Americans generally aren't religious, we cannot comprehend those who are motivated by it.

More correctly, our leaders aren't religious, they're secular. And that secular thinking underestimates the sincerity of belief the Other Side possesses in pursuit of its goals. We're all gonna die because of miscalculation.

I vote for a pre-emptive strike on Iran. All those in favor?

10 posted on 01/23/2015 2:22:53 PM PST by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: sauron

This right here is some sharp analysis. Thank you for chiming in on this, Mr. Sauron.


11 posted on 01/23/2015 2:23:59 PM PST by Thistooshallpass9
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To: caww

And here we go. Will The Kid prevail?


19 posted on 01/23/2015 2:38:06 PM PST by txhurl
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To: sauron

AYE


20 posted on 01/23/2015 2:39:17 PM PST by txhurl
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To: sauron; All

You posted “Iran’s theocratic leaders believe that they cannot win a war with the USA, but that they must prove to their moon god that they are willing to try hard enough so that he will favor them and give them his support.
They believe they will usher in their new age if they engage the Great Satan in a fight they should not be able to win.
MAD (mutually assured destruction) does not apply to Iran, and our State Department is so secular that they routinely discount any sincere religious belief that may motivate the Iranians. Fools. Because we Americans generally aren’t religious, we cannot comprehend those who are motivated by it.”
My reply:
It’s interesting the way socialists approach theological concepts but when it comes to Islam they are not the only ones who refuse to approach the issue. That even includes leading Christian clergy including Pope Francis.

Followers of Mohammed not only claim, but truly believe that God has authorized them to kill those who refuse to submit to their version of God’s will. That is a basic tenet of that religion. A claim which goes unchallanged. While it’s understandable for atheists which most socialists are, not to approach that claim on a theological basis. It’s bewildering why any Christian clergy refuse to admit it even exists and is a basic part of Islam creed and worse yet are unable to condem it.

The Koran and its enforcement of sharia law is a pseudo religious concoction using monotheistic selected texts, taken and misconstrued from the new and old testaments. Both of which cite the Almighty has granted free will to accept or obey his laws and is the final judge not man. Sodom and Gahmora is a glaring example.

Yet followers of Mohammed under the severest of penalties are forbidden to read either which would refute that assertion in a creed which institutionalizes disgusting arab tribal views, observances,and customs. Claiming adhearants are authorized by our Creator to demand submission to it or suffer an ignominious death administered by followers of Islam.

http://www.theusmat.com/islamandfreewill.htm


21 posted on 01/23/2015 2:46:06 PM PST by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: sauron

I am in. Just for the “hell” of it.


23 posted on 01/23/2015 2:54:12 PM PST by Vermont Lt (Ebola: Death is a lagging indicator.)
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To: sauron
More correctly, our leaders aren't religious, they're secular. And that secular thinking underestimates the sincerity of belief the Other Side possesses in pursuit of its goals. We're all gonna die because of miscalculation.

No doubt that is part of the naive Infidel's problem.

When you see young healthy,educated and relatively wealthy men giving up their lives in suicide missions on 9-11 shouting as their last words "Allahu Akbar!", you know it is religiously driven.

It takes time for that to sink in to us Infidels. - Tom

32 posted on 01/23/2015 5:33:54 PM PST by Capt. Tom (Don't confuse U.S. citizens and Americans. They are not necessarily the same. -tom)
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To: sauron; metmom; CynicalBear; boatbums

.......”Secular thinking underestimates the sincerity of belief the Other Side possesses in pursuit of its goals’....

I agree very much with that statement.

I recently listened to an Ex-Hizbollah’s testimony....Having listened to many others along the way and not giving me any further understanding of why they do what they do, it never came across to me they were more than carbon copies with scripted responses where they didn’t even appear to know why they do what they do except they were told to.

.........until I listened to this particular individuals testimony....who spoke with passion and truely how he believed, and certainly sincerely dedicated in heart and mind to Islam and serving his God wholeheartedly.

Though he came to know the love of Jesus Christ while alone with him, his details of how he came to Christ revealed ‘distinct beliefs’ not often expressed nor revealed by most Muslims of the strength and reason for why they believe as they do.

This man not only understood Gods forgiveness, he also knew then that Islam had deceived him in every way. ..which was a crushing blow for one so dedicated, and even taught Islam.

It has been said those who are forgiven much, love the Lord equal to that. In this man you could see disticntly that very thing.....he knew Islam...He knew thereafter the Lord....and even after 18 yrs. when Jesus forgave him for the atrocities he commited he remains tearful when speaking of.

It is those moments when you see his pain that he was so deceived by Islam and was truly , as he said ‘a wicked man’ next to the Holyness of God....that you better understand why they do what they do....and why for some Jesus personally visits them as He does.

I will leave his video which is about 15 minutes long....it was an enormous eye opener to me of the hold that Islam has on the hearts and minds of the truly devoted Muslim...ready to blow himself up for God and do all kinds of killing and believe he’s called to do so...and rejoice for it.

It is truly a revealing video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2-L1KIU7lao


33 posted on 01/23/2015 8:05:39 PM PST by caww
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