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To: wideawake

Rafael was a revolutionary from 1953 through 1957.

So far all you are doing is trolling, what does prison mean? Evidently it means prison, until you can prove differently.

His escape involved subterfuge and bribery.

Since you don’t have any evidence that they are lying, why are you trolling so hard?

How about rather than sounding like a child, you go and do your research, post the facts that make them liars about the details of Rafael’s life, and then we can see what the issue is?


37 posted on 03/24/2015 11:19:45 AM PDT by ansel12 (Palin--Mr President, the only thing that stops a bad guy with a nuke is a good guy with a nuke.)
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To: ansel12
Rafael was a revolutionary from 1953 through 1957.

With what group?

Or did he just have a generally rebellious attitude through his teen years?

So far all you are doing is trolling, what does prison mean? Evidently it means prison, until you can prove differently.

I know that you are well aware that there is a difference between being in jail and being in prison.

Someone gets arrested during a riot, the cops beat him up, hold him in jail for a few days, let him go.

Or

Someone is a violent revolutionary, is arrested, is sent away to a prison, is systematically tortured and beaten for montsh or longer.

Big difference.

His escape involved subterfuge and bribery.

He changhed his name? He disguised himself? Was he in prison and then smuggled out to the US consulate?

How about rather than sounding like a child

I'm not the one calling people names.

you go and do your research

Have I done my research on Batista's Cuba already? I certainly have. Which is why I have questions about details. As far as research on rafael Cruz, there is not a ton of information out there - mostly statements that Senator Cruz has made to the press, statements that paint a very vague outline of the story.

post the facts that make them liars about the details of Rafael’s life

I am not interested in making anyone out to be a liar.

What the Senator has said:

(1) His father was a guerrilla who threw Molotov cocktails, blew up buildings and fought "on the same side" as Castro.

(2) His father was imprisoned and tortured.

(3) His father was given an exit visa by the Batista government and the paperwork for a USstudent visa.

(4) The Batista government only negotiated one amnesty with revolutionaries, in 1955. In 1957 there was martial law - revolutionaries were not being amnestied, pardoned, released, or being given student visas to the USA.

(5) The US was backing Cantillo, not Castro, and was not in the habit of giving out student visas to criminal aliens at that time - which is what the State Department would have considered an imprisoned, bomb-throwing revolutionary in 1957.

39 posted on 03/24/2015 11:46:33 AM PDT by wideawake
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