Posted on 03/28/2015 12:23:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
I’ve looked hard for a Halal butcher shop here to try and order my Easter ham. So far, no luck.
(we’re not very cosmopolitan here, LOL)
“As a businessman I reserve the absolute right to refuse service to any noob I want.”
And that is among the many rights that it displeases Caesar to tolerate any longer.
That right has become a mere government license that permits you to conduct only approved discrimination.
For now that may include permission from Caesar to refuse service to anyone of dress or behavior you find disruptive....but again only to the extent Caesar or his henchmen/urban mobs permit it. That license may be amended or revoked at anytime.
Even now, demand a bare head or uncovered face and when it becomes widely known, see what happens. Put up signs saying transgender facilities not provided and watch the circus come to your door. Put in it your ads and see how fast it happens.
Soon you may be compelled to provide halal or vegan dishes....or even facilities if you hold yourself out as a commercial house?
The objective of the left in all this is not rights for any given group. Group is used to storm group, and in its turn will be destroyed until only Caesar and his mob remains.
In declining order of focused hate on the left’s list for liquidation right now: masculines, whites, Christians, Jews, traditionalists in any form, rurals, free thinkers.
The more subsets you overlap or support, the sooner you will feel the heavy hand of Caesar.
As so often said at FR.
Resist.
The odds don’t matter anymore.
Jeremy is coming across as a real drama queen.
Consider a Gay baker and a Christian caterer in the same town in Indiana..
So the Gay baker is getting married an goes the Christian says I want you to to cater my wedding.. and the Christian declines saying I'll cater other events for you but I just don't do gay marriages it's against my religious beliefs...
the left is outraged and say that should be against the law and should be able to sue the Christian caterer
But now reveres it..the Christian caterer says I want to get just a cake for dinner from the gay Baker ...but the gay Baker says... I will not provide services to you for any thing because I don't like your politics and I'm boycotting doing any services till you change... which is what the left is doing right now with Indiana and they cheer..... how is it different ?..
.... In fact who discriminating more.. the Christian is not demanding the Gay man change...he is willing to do business with Gay.. he just won't service the one function..a gay wedding...
but the Gay man is demanding the Christian man change else he will not do any business with him and provide no services at all unless christian man changes his mind
Not true, for several reasons:
1) it is a high-pressure, perfection-requiring item. As proof of that, bakers usually charge more for a wedding cake than a more ordinary party cake.
2) It is a custom item. Spouses-to-be usually have specfic ideas that they want to have expressed. We still have First Amendment freedom of expression in this country. If an artist does not believe he or she can do the best work because of the sentiment expressed, such as a Ku Klux Klan cake, an NRA cake, an alcohol-infused cake, a porno cake, a DNC victory cake or a gay wedding cake, they should have the right to decline if they don't agree with the sentiment involved.
3) A wedding cake usually requires the chef to enter the premises and set up the cake. Setting up a cake that would disturb the baker's sincerely held religious beliefs would require having his/her truck with its logo parked outside, implying endorsement, and would also coerce expose of baker to many others who may also want a gay wedding cake, also implying endorsement.
In short, it's not a pre-made, pre-packaged standard item like a sheet cake from the grocery on which you can write "Happy Birthday" with your own tube of grocery store icing. It is a custom work of artisanship in which the baker has to invest greater skill, time and delivery effort than standard. Artisans such as bakers, photographers, florists and even tailors and dressmakers should not have to use their specialized skills except by mutual consent with the prospective customer.
If we don't require kosher and halal butchers to butcher pork in order to stay in business, there is not reason to compel anyone else to violate their religious beliefs about marriage.
Thanks for that link. Once my car broke down out of town. The AAA driver recommended a gas station that did repairs. I went for it and we dropped off the car. That night I checked the place on Yelp. All negative reviews. Next day the car was fixed and I mentioned the reviews to the owner. She laughed and said the day after she told Yelp she would pay them no more, her reviews went to hell.
Radical, militant homosexuals will fight like crazed animals at any threat to their gains. They will not sit by for a second at the smallest threat because they know it is a house of cards waiting to fall. They will mobilize every ally they have in the media and politics to fight with them and it will be a bloody mess before it ends. Kudos to Indiana, they have the fortitude that my own state of Georgia does not have.
Why would ANYBODY eat a cake that they had FORCED someone to bake for them......talk about brainless!!!!!
If we don’t require kosher and halal butchers to butcher pork in order to stay in business, there is not reason to compel anyone else to violate their religious beliefs about marriage.
Great point.
I checked some reviews by them a while back for hotels in Hawthorn, NV. I actually ended up staying in the one with the worst reviews because I’d heard of their douchebaggery. A sweet little old Indian couple owned it and it was $40/night. It was for sure “70’s” era design and décor, but everything worked and it was clean.
Stoppelman would reply that a trait is different than your choice of clothes since it’s something you are rather than something you do. The problem with his argument is that a person’s sexual orientation is known to others strictly by their behavior. So when people judge gays, it’s not a “trait” that they’re judging, it’s behavior — which people have a legitimate right to do. This is different than race which truly is a trait.
I might even consider its being a ‘70s time warp a bonus. More interesting than a cookie cutter chain motel.
If Yelp can’t list a business based on products and services offered then they should find another line of work. I wonder what percentage of his customers are from fly over “Clinger” country? The guy is trying to be a bully jackass.
As long as the sheets have been changed some time in the past 30+ years ;’)
Hang on for a tick.
Cake makers are forced to make gay cakes.
This guy must be held to that same standard.
“This guy must be held to that same standard.”
Since he has bad mouthed a whole state I think all of his paying customers in IN are due some recompense.
Keeping and bearing a firearm is a real civil right and those of us who are CCW permitees are sick and tired of states not recognizing our inalienable rights. I don’t see how I could create, maintain, or expand a significant business presence in states like New York and New Jersey that are hostile to my exercise of that right.
Fair is fair, except for one thing: the core issue with supporters of gay rights is support of same sex marriage. This is a “right” without any foundation in human history. In fact, since the dawn of human history, it has been considered an abomination.
Marriage is a covenant defined by God, not a contract defined by man and thus able to be regulated by man’s governments.
Because too many government officials are now hostile to how God defines marriage, government is being used to force me to recognize and even enable “marriage” that God tells me is morally repulsive. Just as we have a separation of church and state, we must now have a separation of marriage and state. When marriage is a private matter, then anyone can enter into any manner of relationship they please, but they cannot use government to impose their definition on others.
There is a restaurant in the SF Bay Area that has figured a way around Yelp’s game. They openly ask their customers to categorize their Yelp reviews as negative, but then post a positive review (if the customer is so inclined) under the low star (or whatever Yelp uses) rating. Apparently Yelp’s algorithms can’t get around this, at least not yet.
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