[Da Coyote]

After CW-II, might it not be better to Gen Sherman the lib states?

[Louis Foxwell]

I was struck today more conclusively than ever with the certain knowledge that we as a nation are morally bankrupt to such a degree that we can not stand. We are as deeply divided as we were when slavery was the issue. Today it is abortion, homosexuality and statism.
We will either be at war with each other over this or we will be destroyed by collapse. Our president is hell bent on bringing about Armageddon. It will happen sooner rather than later.
Abandoning Israel will probably be the final straw. I am certain in my heart that he sees this as the act that will bring us to our knees and allow him to establish martial law in the land. I pray for the salvation of a remnant.

[Sherman Logan]

Anti-slavery abolitionists were outraged that a slave on free territory could now be forcibly removed by the law of the land, back to his or her owner in a slave state.

The DS decision didn't initiate this. In fact, return of slaves to their masters was part of the Constitution.

The DS decision upset people in the North because it made it impossible to prevent the spread of slavery. And because many believed that it would be used as a precedent to make it impossible for free states to prevent slavery in their own bounds.

[DJ Taylor]

A “celebration” of diversity and multiculturalism in the American population was introduced in the 1960s and 70s as a deliberate divisive revolutionary tool wielded by Marxists like Saul Alinsky, Bill Ayers and other radicals. It became dogma taught by Marxists in our universities, then spread by our leftist controlled news media and leftist controlled Hollywood. The intent was, and is, to split American culture along race and class lines and set off a “proletarian” revolution to destroy capitalism. The Left has now managed to elect a half-Black radical as President and their revolution is proceeding along very predictable lines, with him using every opportunity to stir up more division and discontent. A reading of the Constitution of the Revolutionary Communist Party, USA at this link should make clear their goals and methods: http://revcom.us/Constitution/constitution.html

[ScottinVA]

This country is hopelessly divided. In time, a breakup similar to that of Czechoslovakia will be necessary for survival.

[greene66]

If the black-robed tyrants impose homo-marriage onto the country, then the country be damned. I’ll be more than ready to see America split in two.

[Sherman Logan]

Abraham Lincoln ... said, ” a nation divided against itself cannot stand “

Well, no he didn't.

He said, quoting the Bible, "A house divided against itself cannot stand."

[GenXteacher]

When all that holds a nation together is a set of common ideas, and those ideas become no longer common, what then?

[eyeamok]

Does everybody here realize or even know that Slavery was NEVER AN ISSUE during or before the Civil War until a couple years into it, as an effort to get more people to join the fight on both sides.?

[Nowhere Man]

All I can say is that slavery was not the only issue in the Civil War. True it was a part of it but there is much, much more to it. Slavery was part of human history for all time until the late 1800's. We are judging 1700/1800's people by 20th and 21st Century standards. I know in the grand scheme of things, it is wrong but it was the reality for the time and before. I think even of the Confederacy had won, slavery's days would have been numbered between the advent of the electric motor and internal combustion engine,. Look at it this was, it's all settled now.

Basically I see it this way:

First American Revolution, 1775-1783: Won.
Second American Revolution, 1861-1865: Lost
Third American Revolution, 20xx-20xx?: ?????? - Tie breaker?

I think the point is that we are breaking up into two camps what cannot reconcile anymore, you have the libertarians and conservatives on one side, the left on the other. I pray to God it does not come to it but we must be prepared to be able to fight and win,

[concernedcitizen76]

I remember reading that Eric Holder said the historian at Columbia that had the greatest influence on him was Prof. Eric Foner. That’s interesting. Foner wrote that slavery was dying an economic death in the South years before the war ever began. It was getting too expensive to buy and keep slaves. The archaic plantation system was doomed to obsolescence because it wouldn’t be able to compete with the economic pressures of the Industrial Revolution and Machine Age getting into higher gear. Industrialization demanded a mobile free labor force. Foner said slavery would have disappeared on its own with no help from Mr. Lincoln’s war.

[tophat9000]

Yep.. I feel almost exactly the same way.. we’re at identical tipping point in the culture as Dred Scott was a hundred fifty years ago... for same reason ... a bad Supreme Court ruling has embolden certain people to arrogantly press for a false right and run roughshod over others

[ronnie raygun]

Divide and conquer

[Altura Ct.]

We certainly are a nation divided. We are also a GOP divided. With open borders and racial political groups(except white) this will surely get worse.

[Repealthe17thAmendment]

As much as I'm disgusted by the persistent an destructive liberalism that we see today, I think talk of future Civil War is inaccurate. The states are far too intertwined economically, and too reliant on the Federal government to make such a bold move as secession.

Our best hope is an complete economic collapse, and a rebuilding by Conservatives, on our terms. The biggest problem with that, though, is that conservative leaders with integrity are becoming harder and harder to find.