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Poor Children May Have Smaller Brains Than Rich Children. Does That Tell Us Anything?
Slate ^ | April 17, 2015 | Jordan Weissmann

Posted on 04/18/2015 2:50:13 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: Anitius Severinus Boethius

Yes. That is a factor.


41 posted on 04/18/2015 4:54:15 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Ignorance is not stupidity, but, on the other hand, stupid people tend to remain ignorant.


42 posted on 04/18/2015 4:54:56 AM PDT by Savage Beast (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: Sherman Logan; nathanbedford

When read with an open mind the Bell Curve makes the pieces fall into place. Of course, the book discusses uncomfortable truths which most Americans would prefer to ignore. As we know, ignoring the truth comes with a price.


43 posted on 04/18/2015 4:56:24 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: Leep

Leftists definitely tend to be pea-brained. That’s not a theory. That’s a fact.


44 posted on 04/18/2015 4:57:08 AM PDT by Savage Beast (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

More like Consumer/Non-Producers pass down, generation after generation, a small relative inactive brain that only requires knowledge to reproduce & a collect welfare check.


45 posted on 04/18/2015 4:58:47 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Evidently, reliance on welfare makes one stupid.....


46 posted on 04/18/2015 5:00:06 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This study can be used to make a huge leap in income inequality. So, poor children have smaller brains. What does that tell us? That the war on poverty was ALL wrong. We need to channel a new war and money to support it, to find brain foods to make the poor have bigger brains. Then, we will all be rich!


47 posted on 04/18/2015 5:01:24 AM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Tucker39
"the luck of the draw"

Maybe you're right, Tuck. Some of us just lucked out all the way.

48 posted on 04/18/2015 5:01:26 AM PDT by Savage Beast (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: Sherman Logan
Another "discredited" book is Jean Respail's The Camp of the Saints.

The Left is still struggling to "discredit" 1984 and Animal Farm.

49 posted on 04/18/2015 5:03:53 AM PDT by Savage Beast (During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act. --George Orwell)
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To: arthurus

I think you’re speaking more to “success” than to measurable “IQ.”

A lot of successful people’s children marry other successful people’s children and end up with a mixed bag of smarts and not so smarts.


50 posted on 04/18/2015 5:04:05 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: eartick; LS

Its a simple fact. Poor early childhood nutrition will naturally lead to physical underdevelopment. Brains need the right kinds of fat to grow. Its one of the likely reasons Eskimos have the largest brains as a group. They have traditionally had a very high fat diet.

Intelligence is really a very different issue that is only marginally tied to brain size. Ben Carson grew up poor but is far from stupid. He had a mother who cared enough to drive and challenge him.

I grew up poor but have done OK because I had a very different childhood than most kids of today. I was outside all the time absorbing every bit of knowledge and when I was inside, I had a house full of books. I loved TV and still do but I didn’t have cartoons or stupidity TV to watch 24/7. 2 hours of Saturday morning cartoons was pretty much it unless there was a nature show on PBS which you couldn’t tear me away from.

Todays social stratification didn’t exist so much in the past as it does today either. FReeper LS pointed out the “Superzips” to me on twitter the other day where you have whole zip codes where you won’t meet a single “poor” person. Those didn’t really exist 50 years ago. Rich and poor kids played together and learned together. (I’m not suggesting a government solution BTW)


51 posted on 04/18/2015 5:04:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I call BS. I know plenty of poor people who are perceptive, bright, polite, etc.

And plenty of rich people who are purblind, reactionary, rude, etc.


52 posted on 04/18/2015 5:05:03 AM PDT by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: C210N

Yes.

The Left is always looking for the next con.


53 posted on 04/18/2015 5:05:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Sherman Logan
I'm all for any programs that could increase IQ. I just have never seen any evidence of programs designed to increase IQ (mostly nutritional) that have worked.

The libs would like grown adults to believe that every minority suffers from a bad environment which inhibits their intellectual growth. That stands reality on its head. Mnay millions of immigrants to these shores have come from horrible environments and immediately contributed. A bad environment was a strong impetus for them to succeed.

And again, if they, libs, don't believe in IQ, why do they support programs intended to increase IQ? Their whole position (like all lib positions) does not address reality.

54 posted on 04/18/2015 5:10:02 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: Senator_Blutarski

Quite right.

Lots of people like to believe that IQ doesn’t measure anything important.

But there are many decades of data showing conclusively that whatever IQ tests measure, there is an astonishingly high degree of correlation between whatever it is and life outcomes. Even when you back out race, socio-economic class, family structure and just about any other factor you can come up with.

So whatever IQ is, it’s terribly important. So of course we pretend it doesn’t exist.

Almost everyone is willing to agree that geniuses and retarded people exist, very smart and very stupid. But for some obscure reason they don’t want to take that too its logical conclusion and realize that intelligence, like almost all characteristics, forms a bell curve. That is, of course, why it’s called the “normal distribution.”

Where you are on the “average” section of the bell curve is critical in life prospects. That’s 90 to 110, and it’s 52% of the population. But we pretend that 90 IQ has the same abilities as 110 IQ, and it just isn’t true.


55 posted on 04/18/2015 5:11:30 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

This sounds like a good reason to discourage poor people from having children. Instead, our worthless government pays them to do just that.

Cloward-Piven anybody?


56 posted on 04/18/2015 5:12:00 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Savage Beast

The problem is that increasing parental involvement will simply not help a low-potential child exceed his potential. It will help him reach it, but nothing the parents can do will help him exceed his inborn potential.


57 posted on 04/18/2015 5:13:41 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: paterfamilias

Obviously there are genetic factors but I agree that one factor is those who have no interest in what is over the horizon. They live and interbreed with like minded people which leads to a steadily declining brain/intelligence.

My little town has one black family. They aren’t wealthy or anything but those are some of the brightest black kids I have ever seen. The oldest is in college studying agricultural technologies because he wants to be a farmer.


58 posted on 04/18/2015 5:13:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek ("For by wise guidance you can wage your war")
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes, it tells you the poor kids parents also had smaller brains.

Do these idiots actually get paid for these studies?


59 posted on 04/18/2015 5:14:29 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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To: TexasFreeper2009
Do these idiots actually get paid for these studies?

Yes. They apply for grants and they KNOW what the grant giver needs from them.

60 posted on 04/18/2015 5:15:47 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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