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Jobs elusive for 40% of area poor: Survey respondents still struggling
The Fort Wayne Journal Gazette's Local ^ | May 3, 2015 | Sherry Slater

Posted on 05/03/2015 1:41:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

A survey targeting local low-income families has found that 40 percent of respondents felt they have very little or no job security, according to results being released this week.

That kind of instability makes it challenging to commit to car loans, apartment leases and tuition payments – steps often necessary to improving a family’s economic standing.

Of those participating in the survey, more than 1 in 2 has received free groceries or meals and about 1 in 4 has needed help with housing, utilities or health care.

The 502 responses reflect the experiences of those who continue to struggle in northeast Indiana more than five years after the point economists say the Great Recession ended. This was the sixth consecutive year the survey was conducted by members of the Unemployed and Anxiously Employed Workers’ Initiative.

As various politicians kick off their 2016 presidential campaigns, the topic of income inequality is gaining attention. Democrat Hillary Clinton, former senator and secretary of state, has embraced the issue. So have some of her Republican rivals, including Sens. Ted Cruz, Rand Paul and Marco Rubio.

The widening gap between rich and poor is playing out in a national economy that was largely stagnant in the first quarter of this year.

Feeling the pain

More than 40 percent of those surveyed said the local economy is either in another recession or has entered a fundamental and lasting downturn. Only 30 percent believed an economic recovery is underway. The rest – 28 percent – said they weren’t sure.

Participants were not chosen by random sampling, the scientific method used to ensure statistically valid results. But survey organizers say local leaders can learn from participants’ experiences – even if they can’t use the data to draw conclusions about larger groups of people.

“We want to make sure that those workers, that those individuals, those families that are sometimes left out of the discussion have a voice in the economy,” said Gayle Goodrich, AFL-CIO community services liaison to the United Way of Allen County.

Business leaders, politicians and economists generally dominate the discussion on economic matters, she said.

“But you don’t get to hear from the average worker very often,” Goodrich said.

The methodology differed from another report Goodrich contributed to late last year. She helped compile statistics for Indiana’s first ALICE report, a United Way project. ALICE stands for Asset Limited, Income Constrained, Employed. The group is commonly referred to as the working poor.

That report pulled together data from numerous sources to paint a more three-dimensional picture of struggling families’ lives. The Workers’ Initiative’s survey seeks a similar goal.

Max Montesino, IPFW associate professor of organizational leadership and supervision, praised the local survey.

Few researchers seek out immigrant and refugee populations to learn about their experiences in the economy, he said. “This is a universe of respondents that are very difficult to reach.”

Nuts and bolts

Goodrich plans to share the results with United Way co-workers and partner agencies.

The Workers’ Initiative plans to present its findings publicly at some point and invite elected officials, survey volunteers and respondents who provided contact information.

Even those who don’t work at, volunteer at or contribute to the nonprofits providing services to the surveyed families can make a difference in their lives, Goodrich said. That includes economic development officials.

“I hope that they’ll continue to look for ways to bring better job opportunities into the community and make sure people have the skills to fill those jobs,” she said.

Last fall, hundreds of area residents were invited to fill out the survey. Of the 502 total responses gathered, 347 were completed in English, 56 were done in Spanish and 99 were written in Burmese.

Offering the survey in three languages is time-consuming, organizers said, but allowed some enlightening comparisons.

“The non-English survey participants were less likely to report their household economy was experiencing a downturn and were more optimistic about the next generation’s economic future,” the final report stated.

Goodrich, who has a master’s degree in sociology, was among about two dozen people who drafted questions, collected responses, compiled data and wrote the final report.

The effort was primarily carried out by volunteers, but Goodrich was paid for a portion of her time because the work dovetailed with her United Way responsibilities.

The format was based on a survey conducted by Rutgers University’s School of Planning and Public Policy. Over the years, members of the Workers’ Initiative have consulted a local team of social scientists for guidance while updating questions to address specific areas of interest.

Paper forms were distributed in places where low-income families are likely to be found: food banks, township trustee offices, free church dinners, black barber shops, the local WorkOne office and at the annual Labor Day picnic at Headwaters Park. The survey was also available online.

Responses were solicited from September through November. Survey participants ranged in age from 18 to 99, with 46 as the median age.

Participants were offered the opportunity to enter a drawing for a $50 Kroger gift card, which required providing their name and address. Or they could choose to remain anonymous. Based on contact information provided, organizers know the survey was completed by residents of Whitley, Steuben and Huntington counties in addition to Allen County.

When volunteers crunched the numbers, they found the average and median annual household incomes reported by survey participants was less than 40 percent of the $45,006 median the American Community Survey reported for Allen County. That leads survey organizers to conclude that they succeeded in targeting local low-income households.

What it is

Goodrich doesn’t discount the value of traditional surveys.

But, she said, studies that follow the scientific route can easily miss out on talking to people without phones or addresses.

“I wish we could do a larger sampling … that represents a larger population,” Goodrich said. “But we don’t have the resources to do that. So we target low-income and immigrant populations.”

Workers’ Initiative surveyors included native Spanish- and Burmese-speaking volunteers who reassured participants that they could answer questions without fear of retribution, such as arrest or deportation.

Getting undocumented workers to talk “is impossible without building up good credibility with that population,” said Montesino, who is Latino.

Once results are gathered, Goodrich and others are careful not to draw conclusions unless data firmly back them up.

For example, 36 percent of Burmese respondents indicated they have “a lot of job security.” But the survey was taken a few months before Vera Bradley Inc. announced plans to close its New Haven factory, a decision that put 250 first-shift employees out of work, including numerous Burmese.

Although some people might assume that the Vera Bradley closure would have severely rattled local Burmese residents’ sense of job security, Goodrich isn’t willing to make that leap.

She doesn’t know whether anyone completing the survey was employed by Vera Bradley. And she won’t speculate on potential ripple effects the closure has had on the local immigrant community’s psyche.

Montesino is following Goodrich’s lead by not drawing conclusions about the local Latino population from the survey results, but he has noted some data that could help his efforts to lobby for immigration reform.

Back to that job security question, 33 percent of Spanish-speakers indicated they have no job security at all. In addition, 16 percent of that group said they have very little job security, for a total of almost 50 percent.

Meanwhile, 75 percent of the Burmese survey participants said they have some or a lot of job security.

Montesino said the disparity reflects the fact that the Burmese are political refugees who were given Social Security numbers, work permits and green cards when they were brought to the United States. But many Latinos lack that documentation, forcing them to take any jobs they can find from employers who are willing to break the rules.

“What they have this week might not be available next week,” he said of day work at construction sites or in farm fields.

Next steps

What happens next is anyone’s guess.

Montesino, the IPFW professor, said the survey results provides some insight into local low-income households.

“Those who make policies, who put programs together that impact this community, will have more information to base those decisions on,” he said. “I do see value in this.”

Last year, for example, an AFL-CIO official delivered a copy of the 2013 survey results directly to President Barack Obama. The goal is to make people in power at the local, state and federal levels aware of the everyday struggles of low-income Americans.

Goodrich already is drafting new questions for the survey to be taken this fall.

She wants more specifics from the 49 percent of Burmese respondents who said they or their families need help with “personal problems.” The multiple-choice answers offered last year were too vague to offer insight into what kinds of assistance families need, she said.

Goodrich hopes the community will develop an economy in which all people can achieve their goals and potential.

Other notable findings:

• Spanish-speaking respondents reported median annual household income of $25,000, which was $10,000 a year more than those who completed the survey in English.

• Burmese-speaking participants reported median annual household income of $17,000, which was $2,000 a year more than English speakers.

• American Community Survey median household income figures for Allen County and the U.S. are $45,006 and $52,250, respectively.

• Although more than 60 percent of Spanish- and Burmese-speaking respondents reported having full-time work, less than 20 percent of English-speaking participants reported having full-time jobs.

• More than 20 percent of English-speaking respondents said they have some kind of disability.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Local News; Society
KEYWORDS: economy; hispanics; immigration; indiana; minorities; poverty; unemployment; wages
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There's around 4 billion people who would trade places with you in a New York minute.
1 posted on 05/03/2015 1:41:59 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If a Republican is President, these problems getting a job are absolutely positively 100% his fault and no one else’s.

If a Democrat is President, the problem is just “there.” It’s the fault of every one of us, or it’s the fault of America’s stubborn continuation of the capitalist model, or its the fault of the weather, or its the fault of foreign competition, etc., etc., ad infinitum, ad nauseum.


2 posted on 05/03/2015 1:48:52 PM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The non-English survey participants were less likely to report their household economy was experiencing a downturn and were more optimistic about the next generation’s economic future,”

That’s what happens when you pay no taxes; you find work under the table (because you cost less than legitimate workers) and you still get the freebies (rent, healthcare, food stamps, etc.).


3 posted on 05/03/2015 1:49:16 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Steely Tom

If Dems are in charge, the bad economy is the responsibiltiy of the last Republican administration.


4 posted on 05/03/2015 1:50:01 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Steely Tom

And everybody switches sides when the White House changes hands. It’s a tidy system.


5 posted on 05/03/2015 1:51:23 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: kearnyirish2

When working in the illegal drug industry is more profitable than a legitimate job, the black culture goes the illegal drug route. That is what they have done. No need to get an education. Teach your sister to do a trick. No hassle with the tax man. Everything’s under the table. Illegal drugs are the core of their culture. In the hood, the cops are not welcome and street justice reins. Watch out for the Knockout King. Your bell will be rung if you do not toe the line. And a cappin’ will the the subject of a hip hop rap.


6 posted on 05/03/2015 2:04:07 PM PDT by jonrick46 (America's real drug problem: other people's money (the Commutist's opium addiction).)
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To: Steely Tom

There is a help wanted sign in almost every car service window in the poor neighborhoods of State Island. Fast food is always hiring.
Not glamorous but I’ve driven the cars several years when needed.
20 years back it was plainly advertised that the government of NY was giving out 5k in free computer schooling for under and unemployed. Myself and three others showed up. Two Russians, an Albanian and me.


7 posted on 05/03/2015 2:04:12 PM PDT by dp0622 (Franky Five Angels: "Look, let's get 'em all -- let's get 'em all now, while we got the muscle.")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
What skills do they have? What do they know?

What will they do? Will they dig, scrub or mop?

Most employers can't afford to hire you out of pity, you've got to have something they need, even if it's only the right attitude.

8 posted on 05/03/2015 2:06:13 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not A Matter of Opinion)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Elusive” means you have a hard time finding something. That’s a world of difference from “I have a job but who knows if I’ll have one next week.” So what? No one knows that. To the extent it’s any worse now than it ever is, it’s the fault of liberal policy and the guys that I bet about 90% of the respondents vote for. Maybe next time they won’t do that.


9 posted on 05/03/2015 2:10:17 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The solution by liberals and the republican elites is to just swamp the neighborhood with illegals.


10 posted on 05/03/2015 2:11:39 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The United Way is a notorious family-breaking organization that promotes social pathologies.


11 posted on 05/03/2015 2:15:10 PM PDT by familyop (We Baby Boomers are croaking in an avalanche of corruption smelled around the planet.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I realized something this morning, watching PBS for a Texas travel episode, next was MotorWeek with its array of $40K+ vehicles: there’s no working-class car show on any channel for those of us who don’t work in the public sector.

In Austin it’s particularly obvious in traffic who works for the gov (and hasn’t felt an ounce of pain since the ‘08 crash) vs. all the private-sector people driving 5,6,7,8+ year-old cars, you can see it before you even glimpse the .gov parking stickers on the windshield, with the Zero bumper stickers.


12 posted on 05/03/2015 2:27:51 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: kearnyirish2
and you still get the freebies

And you still express a petulant, insistent expectation of same, encouraged by leftist politicians desperately herding warm bodies to the polls.

13 posted on 05/03/2015 2:32:27 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The Ends)
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To: jonrick46

That is the end result, but the violence isn’t worth it; nobody I know would trade their daily struggles for the ghetto life. Imagine living in an environment where anything not nailed down is stolen, drug trade-related violence is practically a daily routine, and anyone who accumulates any wealth is quickly robbed of it.

I’d rather pay my own bills and deal with the tax-man; my children are safe and growing up in a much healthier environment. I owe them that much.


14 posted on 05/03/2015 2:42:07 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What they don’t tell you in Baltimore is that the property tax rate is nearly twice of that of the surrounding counties.

My stepfather was paying around $ 2,000 a year on his house in Baltimore for the crap whole shity of Baltimore.... Yes, my nickname for city, The Shity of Baltimore...

Sorry mods, there is no other way to discribe the city of Baltimore... I know the rules here on propanity.... But in this case the city of Baltimore deserves it.


15 posted on 05/03/2015 2:42:44 PM PDT by American Constitutionalist (BeThe Keystone Pipe lik ProjectR : build it already Congre)
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To: txhurl

31 year old car.

16 posted on 05/03/2015 2:46:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: txhurl

Excellent point.


17 posted on 05/03/2015 2:46:37 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Democrats. They just ... say stuff.)
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To: dp0622

Good for you; the concept of that computer training has to be fit into school requirements so young people leave school with marketable skills. For some of the jobs you mention (like fast food and car service), I don’t think the employers in my area have any desire to hire an American; other jobs require Spanish or Portuguese in addition to English (bank tellers, cashiers, etc.) because the customer base doesn’t speak English.


18 posted on 05/03/2015 2:51:00 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Nice. I see some elbow grease in that shine.


19 posted on 05/03/2015 2:51:25 PM PDT by txhurl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Did the interviews include “Did you graduate from high school”? A question like that is a no-no for the libs.


20 posted on 05/03/2015 2:57:19 PM PDT by ProudFossil (" I never did give anyone hell. I just told the truth and they thought it was hell." Harry Truman)
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