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To: skeeter
Anyone who doesn’t have questions about this incident isn’t really interested in the truth of what happened.

Most people aren't. Enough people are. Some of those have impact, some don't.

Humans are a crowd spectating species. That's what bread and circuses are about. We're headed more towards a global war footing, and it's permeating throughout the world. Look at a picture of the cops today. This is Oakland:




Here's somewhere in Texas:





Damn, they got it going in Yakima, Washington!





I look at the above picture and I gotta almost make a junior high scream of sarcasm, "Wolverines!" They look like East German troops in the 80's.

They look like they are hunting for Rambo. Wait, what...

Oh my God, they are so safe in Berkeley, CA. Look at these operators:




Let's talk about real war for a moment. Look at the above picture, think about the process of shooting select-fire weapons (unavailable to civilians) into a crowd of citizens lawfully assembling at a longstanding event with no history of violence. Prepositioned SWAT teams on rooftops and secreted through other business properties waiting for a Go order on their earpieces.

Someone made judgment call and green lit a mass firing exchange that wounded nearly 30 people and killed nine.

THIS document is what I look to as the law of the land:





It is meant to be understood by the common man. There is a sincere question facing all who have taken an oath to it and are weighing the balance of adherence to it.

What's your pivot point? When do you, oathsworn, make determination of individual conscience of action?

Or pick sides, if you want to be blunt about it.

I think some folks are going to. Going to eventually be some pressure on that.
25 posted on 06/03/2015 9:41:25 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale (III% | 4GW)
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To: Robert Teesdale

Free speech is one of the factors many consider for their “go” decision, but even with that as the measure - it is hard to decide when.

I would say these elimination of opposing thoughts happens in stages. (as do the other measures (gun confiscation, travel restrictions, targeted tax practices, targeted property seizures, EPA confiscations)

Stage 1 - Posters paid to influence/derail debate and discovery and marginalize people with certain facts or opinions. (We are without a doubt already at stage 1.)

Stage 2 - Technical/physical obstruction of dissemination of information and debate. (According to Sheryl Atkinson - beginning rollout.)

Stage 3 - Elimination of key nodes of information dissemination. (Hard to say, but there is some evidence that this has happened. Brietbart, Who died in that burned mercedes?, What about that couple that was prosecuted over TWA 800.)

Stage 4 - Overt malicious prosecution and conspicuous disappearances

Now, which one is your “go” stage again? My point is that is is really hard to come to the point that you raise the bonnie blue and push “all-in.” Perhaps personal encounters are the only universal trigger. Just look at the Jews in the 1930s- 1940s. They were not dumb, but too many peacefully entered the boxcars and camps - “Work will set them free.”

Never again, but exactly where is the line?


33 posted on 06/03/2015 10:00:31 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: Robert Teesdale

I like the way they label the military vehicles “Rescue”.


51 posted on 06/03/2015 10:16:19 AM PDT by WayneS (Yeah, it's probably sarcasm...)
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To: Robert Teesdale

That was from a couple years ago when SWAT, with those vehicles, drones and helicopters raided a small organic country farm, The Garden of Eden, outside Dallas, TX. It is owned by some hippy type folk. Eight were manhandled and handcuffed over some supposed marijuana that turned out to be okra plants and firewood not stacked according to code. The only arrest was one guy over traffic violations. Dallas taxpayers were out a boatload of $$$$$$$ over nothing. LE is getting way out of control.

http://www.intothegardenofeden.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=140&Itemid=382

77 posted on 06/03/2015 1:04:40 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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