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Meet The Startup That Wants To Make Vertical Farming Mainstream
Co.Exist ^ | April 7, 2015 | Adele Peters

Posted on 06/22/2015 7:17:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

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1 posted on 06/22/2015 7:17:00 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Interesting concept I never knew existed

Surprisingly, the author quotes the concern for the conflict of carbon footprint vs economic feasability

2 posted on 06/22/2015 7:21:33 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
"The embodied energy of what's actually consumed is huge,"
If we get controlled fusion, that won’t matter. Wake me up then.

3 posted on 06/22/2015 7:24:18 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion ('Liberalism' is a conspiracy against the public by wire-service journalism.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
The article makes a technology which has been maturing in the Netherlands since the seventies sound as if it were developed within the last ten years.

On what other points did the girbilist not do much research?

This reads like the company in question commissioned a press release.

Not that it's not interesting, just that it infers a claim to having done the intellectual heavy lifting that should rightfully be credited to the people who pioneered this stuff.

4 posted on 06/22/2015 7:25:41 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Time will tell.
This could be like solar power — a scam requiring endless infusions of fresh cash.
But it might also be a real game changer. I watch this stuff with interest.


5 posted on 06/22/2015 7:34:57 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Claire Wolfe should check her watch. It's time.)
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To: MrEdd

It’s well developed in Japan as well with ceiling high rotating shelfs.


6 posted on 06/22/2015 7:35:02 AM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothings)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Realtor (when house prices are going up-and-up and he's desperate to unload some property):

They're not making any more land.

Oh, wait...

7 posted on 06/22/2015 7:35:08 AM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

They say that everyone on Earth would fit in Texas and each have about an acre of land.


8 posted on 06/22/2015 7:37:09 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You can help: https://donate.tedcruz.org/c/FBTX0095/)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion

They hope to create 25 farms in the next five years - but they haven’t yet determined their energy costs. Next stop: government subsidies. The latter is really the type of ‘farming’ they are engaging in - and that type is nothing new.


9 posted on 06/22/2015 7:40:16 AM PDT by FirstFlaBn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I don’t really see the point. This country has a LOT of farmland and in many cases its reverting to forest due to disuse.

Groups keep pimping the Farm Detroit BS but when you look closely its really about farming grants and subsidies while letting existing farmland go fallow.


10 posted on 06/22/2015 7:43:10 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Sad fact, most people just want a candidate to tell them what they want to hear)
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It does use a lot of energy—picture row after row of LED lights over every plant, along with pumps delivering nutrients and an HVAC system—but the company says it isn’t clear yet how the carbon footprint compares to traditional farming of leafy greens.

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In other words, it doesn’t compare well.


11 posted on 06/22/2015 7:51:47 AM PDT by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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Yes, it must not compare well.

After all, don’t they know how many light fixtures they will need?

From there it’s simple math that even a 4th grade homeschooled kid could figure out. Or a public high school senior, with a little coaching.


12 posted on 06/22/2015 8:03:20 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I love this trend, farms inside the cities, farms using abandoned large buildings, fresh produce year round in Alaska and Minneapolis, and it will only continue to improve.

As the new energy systems and local energy self sufficiency develop over coming decades, America and civilization will become less and less fragile and susceptible to the whole system collapsing over nuclear attacks, or EMPs, or whatever major events can trigger a snowball effect in systems that seem to need almost national perfection to function.


13 posted on 06/22/2015 8:09:33 AM PDT by ansel12 (Trump- I identify as Democrat-- favorite president?-Clinton-- your veep? "Oprah my first choice".)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Gee, they could pump their carbon footprint into the building. I bet the crops would love it.


14 posted on 06/22/2015 8:16:58 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: knarf

The Japanese having been doing it for a while. Their yields for the space involved, are incredible.


15 posted on 06/22/2015 8:21:14 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: MrEdd

They say this company has been doing it for the last decade, great article. Recently saw a documentary on this subject and the economy of water savings, ability to grow 24/7/365, and less food lost due to transportation was very interesting. Did not see where the people were claiming to have researched and done this all themselves.


16 posted on 06/22/2015 8:23:57 AM PDT by Jolla
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To: MrEdd

As one that has been blindsided by this article, I appreciate your post ..... thanx


17 posted on 06/22/2015 8:27:13 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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>> They say that everyone on Earth would fit in Texas

true.

... and each have about an acre of land.

Only after we kill off the “undesirables”. Texas comprises around 167 million acres of land — not enough to give even every Yankee in ‘murica an acre. :-)


18 posted on 06/22/2015 8:37:35 AM PDT by Nervous Tick (There is no "allah" but satan, and mohammed was his demon-possessed tool.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Basically, they are growing veggies in a greenhouse.

This might become a cost effective way to get some veggies to local grocery stores, particularly in winter when they would otherwise have to be transported over very long distances. You might even be able to get tomatoes which are optimized for taste rather than how well they hold up in transport.

If located next to an office building, you could even have it draw CO2-rich office air in, and feed back oxygen-rich air from the plants.

19 posted on 06/22/2015 8:39:14 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come fokquote>r you.)
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To: cripplecreek

They are not going to grow wheat, corn or other grain type crops this way. However, they have been growing mushrooms, and other vegetables like this for some time. By controlling the growing environment you can grow faster than outdoors. Plus you grow year round 24/7. Also, there is less freight to get the product to market. In this case there are 20 million people within 50 miles of this “farm”.

Many produce items like tomatoes are grown in green houses in Canada. Growing outdoors wastes a lot of water. You can also control insect problems better indoors.

I live in NH where much of the state was once farmland (805 in 1865) now it is 80% forested. However, the only thing that grows well here are White Pine trees and rocks.


20 posted on 06/22/2015 8:44:28 AM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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