Posted on 06/29/2015 8:23:31 AM PDT by don-o
This may come as a shock to you but criminals have rights too.
What is "funny" about this?
Closely related to the idea that an individual is innocent until proven guilty, the Blackstone Ratio means that democratic societies do not sacrifice the liberties of the innocent in order to punish the guilty.
Thanks for digging that up.
Sure they do, but when the author is an associate of the same criminal front group the defendants were using to further their criminal operation, that doesn’t speak well to his subjectivity.
Now, what rights do you think these criminals had that were violated, exactly?
“Somehow logic, fairness, and the law was thrown out the window in the Waco incident.”
Sadly there appears to be too many people here on FR that are too willing to throw all that out the window. Like the old say about throwing the baby out with the bath water.
“I’m tired of people nit picking the cops for stopping a riot in progress”
By killing 8 or 9 people.
>>> One does wonder if there are inaccurate factual matters in that first statement. <<<
Or perhaps factual matter that doesn’t agree with the current storyline?
No way to know at this time.
And thanks to you for sticking with this story. Like a dog with a bone.
” What is “funny” about this?
Closely related to the idea that an individual is innocent until proven guilty, the Blackstone Ratio means that democratic societies do not sacrifice the liberties of the innocent in order to punish the guilty. “
Well, for one, he doesn’t seem to understand the difference between being arrested and “punishment”. That’s pretty laughable, I’d say.
And you are fine with using the judicial process to punish before trial?
IF the setting of a $1,000,000 bond is NOT punishment, then the word has no meaning. (There's a lot of THAT going on these days. Lay off the Kool Ade)
First I am not sure all were “criminals”. There is no proof(that has been released) that all of those taken into custody were “criminals”. In fact the authorities have said the majority of them have no ‘criminal” record in Texas.
The one thing I find is a blatant violation of rights is the taking of property and disposing of it just on an accusation. Yes, I understand it is an old Texas tradition. Doesn’t make it right. Here in Nevada we push back on that and are winning the battle against property confiscation without court approval.
Maybe they finally realized how bad that image is. According to affidavits in the property seizures, the videos reveal ominous actions on the patio BEFORE shots were fired.
Matching that to the location of the cops, SITTING IN THEIR VEHICLES, as these ominous actions were ongoing, makes you go, "Hmmmm. Wonder why?"
You’re on the right fantasyland thead.
Anyone that pays any attention...understands this.
“First I am not sure all were “criminals””
Fair enough, I’ll call them “alleged criminals” then.
“The one thing I find is a blatant violation of rights is the taking of property and disposing of it just on an accusation.”
You’re talking about the vehicle forfeitures? If so, you can rest easy, they can’t be taken based only on an accusation:
“The actual process of forfeiture can only take place after a person is convicted of the crime alleged in the forfeiture.”
“IF the setting of a $1,000,000 bond is NOT punishment, then the word has no meaning.”
Sez you. Fortunately, you opinion carries no force of law, so we can dismiss it.
OOOOoooooooh - That is a debate winner.
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There is no point debating idiots pushing these conspiracies. They do not respond to logic or facts.
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