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Actually ... I wasn't being sarcastic. It's the truth. I think that the Bandidos club has had a lot more heavy bad-asses in the past. I think that most of the older guys in the club, REBELS all, want to clean things up and make the Bandidos a club of good guys, like a whole helluva lot of clubs ARE now. I think there's an element of stupid bad jack-asses in the club, that like all clubs, is a brotherhood. They try to take care of their crap internally.

I've just been around the fringes of this, been around rebels and "outlaw" men all my life. Right off the top of my head I can think of THREE felons who are absolutely hands-down among THE most righteous stand-up guys of my personal and long acquaintance, the kinds of guys who may live and look a little or a lot shady, depending, but who know how to fight well and smart and on the RIGHT side. The kinds of guys who would swiftly and discreetly dispense with heavy bad-ass elements that tried to screw with them or anyone they cared about.

So no, I wasn't being sarcastic. I think the criminal propensities of the Bandidos, while there in a percentage of clubs and membership, have been vastly exaggerated by LEO to the public at large, and I bought that exaggeration hook, line, and sinker until I started paying more attention.

Thank you for your thoughtful reply. You may well be right. I, too, know two felons who are stand up guys. Both of their felony arrests were utter bullshit, IMHO. But then I know a guy doing life-without who belongs there.

Happy Independence Day.