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To: X-spurt

I haven’t run away from anything. I just stated it’s not my business or anyone’s business what the guy was ordained as. My statement stands. An ordained minister, and many others without criminal records were arrested on BS charges, held in jail under ridiculous bail, denied access to council for almost a month.

Plenty long enough for the Police, ATF, and the DA to all get their stories to match. You don’t think that’s enough of a violation of their rights? Let a police force do that to a black person and see what happens.

I don’t naively think anything about my CCW permit. I know exactly what the rules are. I used it as an example of how the government will ignore any right that doesn’t suit them at the time. Most of those guys were arrested carring pocket knives. According to the media they were arrested for “Dangerous Weapons”. No they were arrested for association. Freedom of Association is there in the First Amendment I believe.

Terrorized, intimidated, endangered, by guy on a motorcycle, riding with friends, wearing colors? I’ve known quite a few of those type people. As a matter of fact I would be on a motorcycle, long hair and beard, in leathers, maybe not colors, except a charitable club, if I wasn’t crippled. Not one of the guys I know have ever done any of the things you accuse them of. The ones I know ride to work everyday, home most nights, and get together on weekends. You know seems I remember about 1,000,000 of them riding to DC a couple of years ago to raise awareness of Veterans issues. I also remember every Veterans funeral is escorted by whatever clubs are in the area to keep those a$$holes from Westboro Baptist Church from harassing the soldiers loved ones. Many of them ride weekends to raise money for disabled Vets, children, collect toys for kids at Christmas, and have a deep love for the freedom America grants them to jump on their bike and, ride where they want. Of course the government can’t allow Americans to have that level of freedom anymore. Or the freedom to get together and figure out ways to get that government off their head, and out of their lives.

Ever ask yourself how all those cops, and federal agents knew to be at that restaurant the very day a bunch of a$$holes show up to pick a fight with a group that had been meeting there for a couple of years with no incidents?

You mark my words. You don’t think it can happen to you? They couldn’t destroy the TEA Party with the IRS, they can’t get away with passing new gun laws. Remember the story, They came for the Confederate flag, but I didn’t care because I’m not from the south, etc... Conservatives have already been called terrorists multiple times by this administration. Do you honestly believe the media is gonna tell the truth when they find a reason to kill or arrest us?
I can hear Lester Holt on NBC News now, “A rightwing extremist group was arrested and jailed today for threatening to overthrow the US government.”

You believe what you want, I pray your naivete is born out. I have always been a supporter of police (until they shoot a dog), But this situation is different, and it should be setting off alarms with every Conservative in this country, sadly for too many I fear that alarm wont go until the federal forces are knocking on their door demanding their guns.

As far as those that agree with me that we are not being told the truth by the gov, or the police about what happened in Waco, well you are in the minority, so you’ll either have to suffer who you call fools, or find other activities. I wont be silenced by you or anyone else (exception to JimRob, or admins). I will continue the clarion call anytime I see a clear abuse of power by a government entity.


34 posted on 07/05/2015 11:14:18 PM PDT by rikkir (Anyone still believe the 8/08 Atlantic cover wasn't 100% accurate?)
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To: rikkir

I see you are interacting with two of the Resident Waco Trolls.

Their tactics are as predictable and boring as they are despicable.

They make a very small contribution though, by using their spew to bump a thread so that FReepers with functioning brains can become aware of Waco 5/17.


36 posted on 07/06/2015 6:02:39 AM PDT by don-o (I am Kenneth Carlisle - Waco 5/17/15)
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To: rikkir

“But this situation is different”

Yes. It was a gang war in a parking lot, not in a Nevada casino.


38 posted on 07/06/2015 6:14:58 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: rikkir

” denied access to council for almost a month.”

Did you make that up?


39 posted on 07/06/2015 6:17:17 AM PDT by TexasGator
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To: rikkir

“denied access to council for almost a month”
You can not actually believe this! That is precisely why I fight against this misinformation campaign, Freepers such as your self, seem to have become caught up in and which hurts FR.

Of course there are many more motorcycle riders who are good law abiding citizens. I rode for years, but never as part of any ‘club’ (gang). There are also a number of serious criminal trouble-maker riders, some of whom were prevalent at Twin Peaks.

As to the Million Bike DC thing, that was not Bandidos or Cossacks, support gangs and wannabes, etc. BUT, I also take issue with anyone who rides dressed up to look like Hell’s Angels, with the obvious purpose to intimidate non-clubbers and law abiding citizens, by inference.

It is ridicules and subversive to try to excuse the participants at Twin Peaks by comparing them and their actions to Tea Party or Conservatives. The bike gangs were under surveillance for good reason. Yeah, the liberals look at us as their enemy, but they will not be in power much longer and the liberals are not even now powerful enough to cause the LEO or military to attack us.

The WPD was prepared for any eventuality with these bike gangs for good reason (which you and your excusers conveniently fail to remember).

No one is trying to make you quit posting. My intent is to correct mis-information that appears to be intentional. On that hand, if you are posting mis-information with the intent to excuse the actions of criminal bike gangs, then yes I will counter your ever post. If my “insisting on the truth” causes you embarrassment for your asinine posts, that is your own fault.

I suggest you and others here do a better job of researching rather than relying on clearly biased sources.


47 posted on 07/06/2015 9:02:02 AM PDT by X-spurt (CRUZ missile - armed and ready.)
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