Marines Ditch the M-16, What?

Marine Corps Times ^ | 7/29/2015 | James K Sanborn

[clintonh8r]

We trained and qualified with the M14 at Quantico. By then, 1968, the M16 was already in the fleet.

[Gaffer]

I’ve got a lot of bayonets and knives, but nothing like that...I only go back to WWI....

[Gaffer]

When they stopped having master gunsmiths making their Pythons is when they screwed the pooch.

[Lazamataz]

The ROMAN LEGION.

Now THAT was an ARMY.

[Lee'sGhost]

Based on everything I’ve read (a lot of it on FR), the military should adopt ADCOR A-556 Elite. I was proven the far superior weapon in military trials before the trials were suspended and the weapon itself makes so much sense it’s hard to argue against it.

http://adcordefense.com/

[Gaffer]

Yeah....they did like their boy companions, didn’t they?

[clintonh8r]

Along with my 1911 .45 I carried an Ithaca 12gauge with shortened barrel in Vietnam. This violated Marine Corps doctrine of officers to carry weapons only for personal protection. As far as I was concerned it WAS for my personal protection! I never had to use it, thankfully.

[Cry if I Wanna]

I’m old school partial.....Garand.....

Sounds like you're just old. Me too! LOL!

[RobinOfKingston]

Great! That should free them up to be sold into the civilian market. ;-)

[SgtHooper]

I think the point is to dump the 556 round for the more potent 30 cal round.

[ExTxMarine]

While waiting for my MOS school to start, in Little Creek, VA., I was on sh!t detail for almost two months.

One of the best details I had, however, was training ship crews on the M14! They still had the M14’s on ship and had to have a refresher course (I’m assuming annually). So, they sent me and three other Marines to show them how to shoot the weapons with accuracy.

I LOVED that weapon! I would have traded my M16 for an M14, ANY DAY!

[dfwgator]

[ExTxMarine]

I think the point is to dump the 556 round for the more potent 30 cal round.

Sounds good to me! That is one of the reasons we went back to the .45! Those 9mm - SUCKED! I qualified the first two times with a 1911 (which I think was built in 1911), but the last three times with a 9mm. I wanted my antique .45 back!

[headstamp 2]

The Ithaca was a wonderful shotgun. have a Deerslayer from that era.

Bottom ejection.

[Lazamataz]

No, those were the Greeks.

[Gaffer]

I’ve seen some stuff on TV that speaks differently.....

[longtermmemmory]

is there a side by side comparison?

[Lee'sGhost]

How do you come to that conclusion when the article is about replacing the M-16 with the M-4 — both 5.56 caliber — and never says anything about a .30 cal in any context whatsoever?

[frog in a pot]

I wanted us to go with a recoil operated 7.62 for long fields of fire, and fully automatic 12 gauge system...

Bingo! Will go anywhere with my M1 and Saiga 12.

[SgtHooper]

There has been much talk about replacing the 556 round with the 308 round, in the military, since the 556 stopping power drops off significantly at distances.