[VanDeKoik]

And you could not go and turn off the data collection options (you could have done that during the initial install), but instead post an absurd rant essentially saying you have no idea what you are doing?

I swear is FR the place for all of the tech illiterate people on the right choose to go?

[LYDIAONTARIO]

I am tech illiterate and conservative, so you are right!

[Quality_Not_Quantity]

And you could not go and turn off the data collection options (you could have done that during the initial install), but instead post an absurd rant essentially saying you have no idea what you are doing?

I just installed Windows 10 myself - works just fine, btw - but had been cautioned in advance about turning off those data-collecting features. It pays to listen to other people, especially if you don't otherwise have a clue.

Otherwise, "Caveat Emptor" needs to be the rule of the day.

[rockrr]

I think that I get Perseverando’s point even if I don’t share his/her reservations to the degree that he/she does. If I were building an OS my approach would be opt-in rather than opt-out. That is, I would allow the end user to turn on the things they want instead of having to configure their environment to (hopefully) turn off things that bother or distress them.

Just yesterday I came across a list of services or “features” that are (more or less) introduced with Win-10 that some people view with alarm. These are all turned on by default when they should be turned off.

You can disable the following:

Disable Telemetry
Disable Biometrics
Disable Handwriting Data Sharing
Disable Handwriting Error Reporting
Disable Application Telemetry
Disable Inventory Collector
Disable Steps Recorder
Disable enabling Lock Screen Camera
Disable and Reset Cortana
Disable Location
Disable Sensors
Disable Web Search
Disable Windows Media DRM Internet Access
Defer Windows Upgrades
Disable App Notifications
Disable Password Reveal Button
Disable and Reset Advertising ID
Disable SmartScreen Filter for URLs
Disable Sending Writing Info
Disable Access to Language List
Disable App Access to Location Info
Disable App Access to Camera
Disable App Access to Microphone
Disable Getting to know me
Disable App Access to Account Info
Disable App Access to Calendar
Disable App Access to Messages
Disable App Access to Radios
Disable Sync With Devices
Disable Windows Feedback Requestes
Disable Windows Update Sharing
Disable Windows Update for other Products
Disable WiFi Sense
Disable Windows Defender
Disable Automatic Windows Updates
Disable OneDrive
Disable Automatic Driver Update

Computers should work for you, not the other way around.

[ElkGroveDan]

Yep.

[Kirkwood]

It was a surprise to everyone, even the beta testers. The reason to turn these things off is beyond the ability of many users to fully understand, especially when so much of the privacy switches are hidden. Microsoft could have had the installation designed to opt in to data mining features or make the privacy issues more obvious, but purposely hid these concerns because they were looking at the potential income that could be generated from personal data mining. In years to come we will see a lot more personal data mining attacks on the windows 10 platform.

[VTenigma]

Many of we conservatives are older and didn’t grow up in the tech revolution. Wrap your head around this, I went to high school around the time pocket calculators came into being. We were not allowed to use calculators for math class, we had to learn slide rules. Have you ever used a slide rule? This was the seventies, not some dark time.

As for being tech literate, I get by, as to the technologies I am literate in I kick ass and take names. I’m constantly learning and advancing, but at some point you need to cut you losses as you age. I don’t have space in my brain to be expert in OS or IT tech, you’ll find out.

[Perseverando]

And you could not go and turn off the data collection options (you could have done that during the initial install), but instead post an absurd rant essentially saying you have no idea what you are doing?

I swear is FR the place for all of the tech illiterate people on the right choose to go?

I guess I'm just not having a good day today.

I suppose I should have explained in my original post that I turned off all the "data collection options" without having researched the collection issues I'm now aware of. But then you just "assumed" that no one in your little world is competent but you and Bill Gates.

If I told you what I really thought of your reply you'd probably go crying to the mods like a little girl and then I'd probably be kicked off FR for awhile.

So it appears you're a self proclaimed Microsoft/techie snob who is overly impressed with your own techie-ness. Well I am just so impressed with your holier than thou techie-ness, as I'm sure the rest of our fellow Freepers are, as well.

And by the way, I'm pretty impressed with the tech literacy of Freepers in general, their civility and their understanding of the world, politics, human nature, etc, etc.

[RBStealth]

a) you should have bought PC-Matic now with SuperShield.

b) is it plugged in

c) you have a virus

if you reply with anything other than the above the technically illiterate will gang pile you.

BTW, there is a free 3rd party app that will manage all your privacy settings for Windows 10. For those interested search and find.

[stuck_in_new_orleans]

Yep. They probably think their DVD players are conspiring against them.

[Maceman]

I swear is FR the place for all of the tech illiterate people on the right choose to go?

There is not shame in not being technically expert. Not everyone is a techie. I have often posted technical questions here because I know that there are many tech geeks here, and I have often found really excellent advice from my more technically adept fellow Freepers.

In fact, knowing I can almost always find useful technical advice here is one of the perqs of being a Freeper.

What was the point of your condescending and unhelpful comment, anyway? I swear there seem to be more crankie, smug, self-righteous jerks on FR every year. Take it personally.

[usconservative]

I swear is FR the place for all of the tech illiterate people on the right choose to go?

Seems to be. Some of the outrageous b.s. claims like the one above about Windows 10 have no basis in fact and do as you've indicated, point right at the posters technical illiteracy.

That's typically why I stay off most threads like this one. I've been a beta tester for Microsoft for over 15 years now. The claims made by the original poster have no basis in fact. None whatsoever.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

“And you could not go and turn off the data collection options (you could have done that during the initial install), but instead post an absurd rant essentially saying you have no idea what you are doing?”

I wonder if those are the *only* data collection methods baked in?

I wonder if there is also a backdoor to compromise security for the government/s?

[The KG9 Kid]

It all started back in about 2003 when Walmart started selling desktop PCs for under $500.

FR was never the same after that.

[JimRed]

I swear is FR the place for all of the tech illiterate people on the right choose to go?

Hey, I represent that remark!

I must admit to failing to understand half of what was presented as the cure during initial installation; even some of the terminology is lacking in my lexicon.