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Defending The Donald - Do you have his back, or do you hate America?
Washington Free Beacon ^ | August 14, 2015 | Andrew Stiles

Posted on 08/15/2015 1:03:57 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

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To: C. Edmund Wright
"A concept some refuse to embrace...."

Or your personal beverage of choice...

121 posted on 08/15/2015 12:29:15 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (("This is a Laztatorship. You don't like it, get a day's rations and get out of this office."))
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To: miss marmelstein

Show me.


122 posted on 08/15/2015 12:48:08 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Fantasywriter

You are never going to have a wall.

You’re lapping up Trump koolaid.


123 posted on 08/15/2015 12:51:09 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: miss marmelstein

Misdirected question.

Sorry to bother.


124 posted on 08/15/2015 12:54:03 PM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Right now we don’t even have a country. But while you and the others zero in on the trees, some have their eye on the forest. For your sake, I pray the latter prevail.


125 posted on 08/15/2015 1:09:30 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: C. Edmund Wright
so Trump is like Obama in some ways, so let’s elect him anyway. And if it puts you on the left so be it? YOU said it.

While that could be true, every one running is this election is like Obama in some ways, some in a lot of ways...

126 posted on 08/15/2015 1:39:19 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

do tell, how is everyone running somewhat like Obama?


127 posted on 08/15/2015 2:56:27 PM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again)
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To: discostu
Uhhh none of the above. Don’t hate America, know for a fact that Turmp is a die hard liberal and every conservative supporting his is believing pathetic transparent lies.

He is the only liberal out there then who wants to bring jobs back from China...He's the only liberal that wants a strong military...He's the only liberal or Republican who wants to build a wall at our border...He's the only liberal who is anti-muzlim...And the list goes on...

Even if Trump is lying, so what??? That just puts us where we will be if any of the other candidates get elected...At least Trump sounds conservative on a lot of issues...

Trump is pro Social Security which some wouldn't call conservative...But Trump is pro America for Americans...Pro military...Pro getting immediate care for wounded veterans...

Trump is anti unfair trade with Europe...Trump is for drilling for oil wherever it lays...

Trump may be lying but he is more conservative sounding than the entire bunch put together...

Trump is the only pro American sovereignty candidate out there (aside from Cruz, maybe)...What can possibly be more important than that???

128 posted on 08/15/2015 3:24:43 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
You are never going to have a wall.

You’re lapping up Trump koolaid.

Then none of them are worth voting for...At least Trump gives us hope...

129 posted on 08/15/2015 3:26:51 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: Iscool

You hit the key. Because he IS lying. That means he’s not actually for ANY of those things. He’s for himself. And nobody else. He doesn’t care where the jobs are, he doesn’t care about our military, he doesn’t care about the border. He cares about money and fame.

He’s admitted repeatedly he’s a liberal. Everything he’s saying in this race is a pure lie. Just because he “sounds” conservative doesn’t mean anything. It’s all a lie. He’s not pro American sovereignty. He doesn’t care about it.

What’s more important is the truth. And the truth is every single thing that comes out of Trumps mouth is an abject lie. He doesn’t believe it, and you shouldn’t. And if you believe him you are quite simply being a fool.


130 posted on 08/15/2015 3:47:10 PM PDT by discostu (It always comes down to cortexiphan)
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To: Iscool

What they don’t grasp is that without a border a country ceases to exist. Right now we have no border. Murderers, rapists, child molesters, gangbangers, terrorists, America-haters, parasites and overall law breakers are flooding our so-called country by the millions. The culture of most of these foreign invaders is antithetical to ours. Once they get here they become super-citizens and enjoy rights and benefits unheard of by actual citizens. They are a plague that shows no sign of letting up or even slowing down.

Until Trump championed the issue, it wasn’t even permitted to say they were raping and killing us. Trump paid a steep price—which these midget-minds have forgotten—but he stood strong. He is a patriot who has vowed to drag the country back from the death spiral of unlimited illegal ‘immigration.’

And the best they can do is say he’s lying. Pathetic.


131 posted on 08/15/2015 3:52:42 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: discostu

...And the truth is every single thing that comes out of Trumps mouth is an abject lie. He doesn’t believe it, and you shouldn’t. And if you believe him you are quite simply being a fool...

And you know this how?


132 posted on 08/15/2015 3:59:03 PM PDT by Duchess47 ("One day I will leave this world and dream myself to Reality" Crazy Horse)
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To: Duchess47

The guy has been a Democrat, a Republican, and an independent at least twice each. Is that the guy with a core belief in anything but himself? If you’ve bothered to pay any attention to Trump in the past the reality of his constant lies in the present is pretty obvious. Trump believes in him, that’s it. Everything he says is simply to elevate him. The only thing he believes about what he says is he believes it will make you like him.


133 posted on 08/15/2015 4:02:59 PM PDT by discostu (It always comes down to cortexiphan)
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To: discostu

In your world there’s no need for God; you know people’s hearts as only a Divine Being could.

In the real world you are not omniscient, only arrogant.


134 posted on 08/15/2015 4:07:19 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

In my world the guy has been famous for over 25 years, done tons of interviews, written a couple of books and is actually pretty darn easy to know. It’s not like he came out of nowhere, there’s plenty of documentation out there about what he thinks and how he works. And this campaign is exactly how he works, and the stuff he’s saying for it isn’t what he thinks.


135 posted on 08/15/2015 4:12:58 PM PDT by discostu (It always comes down to cortexiphan)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Nope....Cruz 2016. No one else will get my vote in the 2016 TX GOP primary


136 posted on 08/15/2015 4:15:36 PM PDT by catfish1957 (I display the Confederate Battle Flag with pride in honor of my brave ancestors who fought w/ valor)
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To: discostu

1 Corinthians 4:5New American Standard Bible (NASB)

5 Therefore do not go on passing judgment before the time, but wait until the Lord comes who will both bring to light the things hidden in the darkness and disclose the motives of men’s hearts; and then each man’s praise will come to him from God.

You are speaking of Trump’s inner motives. Only God knows what they are.


137 posted on 08/15/2015 4:16:59 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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To: Fantasywriter

Of speak of Trump’s own words. Have you ever read any of his books? Seen any of his interviews? Bothered to learn ANYTHING AT ALL about him BEFORE he said he was a birther? Do a little homework, it ain’t hard, there’s plenty of material out there BY Trump, you don’t even have to go for the stuff about him, read and listen to HIS WORDS. He’ll say anything to close a deal, he’s said it himself multiple times. Tell them what they want to hear, don’t worry if it’s the truth. Well he’s telling you what you want to hear.


138 posted on 08/15/2015 4:21:57 PM PDT by discostu (It always comes down to cortexiphan)
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To: onona

I supported GW Bush on the Secure Fence Act and living in NM I am pretty close to the situation. I still think Bush did some good and they just need to spend more (and get Obama outta office )

However the Trump people think Bush was a disaster....He has said as much and people seem to forget recent history. (see below)

Trump talks big but thats it...no telling what he would accomplish if he was President

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On October 26, 2006, U.S. President George W. Bush signed the Secure Fence Act of 2006 (Pub.L. 109–367) into law stating, “This bill will help protect the American people. This bill will make our borders more secure. It is an important step toward immigration reform.”[1]

The bill was introduced on Sep. 13, 2006 by Peter T. King (R-NY). In the House of Representatives, the Fence Act passed 283 -138 on September 14, 2006. On September 29, 2006 – the Fence Act passed in the Senate 80 -19.

The Secure Fence Act of 2006’s goal is to help secure America’s borders to decrease illegal entry, drug trafficking, and security threats by building 700 miles (1,100 km) of physical barriers along the Mexico-United States border. Additionally, the law authorizes more vehicle barriers, checkpoints, and lighting as well as authorizes the Department of Homeland Security to increase the use of advanced technology like cameras, satellites, and unmanned aerial vehicles to reinforce infrastructure at the border.[1] Congress approved $1.2 billion in a separate homeland security spending bill to bankroll the fence, though critics say this is $4.8 billion less than what’s likely needed to get it built.[citation needed]

Proponents of the bill believe that it will diminish vehicle transport of illegal immigrants, encouraging those who want to enter the country to pursue legal channels or cover potentially hundreds of miles on foot and overcome a difficult obstacle. This should decrease the number of apprehensions of illegal immigrants, by physically reducing their numbers. It could also diminish the illegal drug trade pouring into the US from Mexico as well as provide additional protection from terrorist entry into the country.[2]

Opponents of the bill argue that it is not an effective strategy to curb illegal immigration because the fence is not a continuous barrier and can be climbed over or dug under in some areas. They also argue that it could harm US-Mexico relations, disrupt the environment and natural migration of wildlife, as well as increase the danger and risk of Immigrant workers attempting to cross the border. Further, opponents argue that because of the increased risk of crossing the border, illegal immigrants who previously pursued seasonal work and then returned home may have to bring their families and live permanently in the country.[2]

Since construction of the wall began “apprehensions, a rough proxy for measuring illegal crossings, were down 18% at the southern border in 2008 and Border Patrol attributes some of that to the fence.[citation needed] But a report in May 2009 by the Congressional Research Service found “strong indication” that illegal crossers had simply found new routes.” [3]

On January 23, 2008 the 110th Congress introduced Reinstatement of the Secure Fence Act of 2008 (H.R. 5124). This bill called for Homeland Security to construct an additional 700 miles of two layered, 14 foot high fencing along the southwest border.[4] The bill died in committee and was never voted upon.[4]

By April 2009 Homeland Security had erected about 613 miles of new pedestrian fencing and vehicle barriers along the southwest border from California to Texas.[5]

In May 2010, Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC) unsuccessfully reintroduced his “Finish the Fence” amendment for the second time, which would require Homeland Security to construct an additional 353 miles (568 km) of fencing along the US-Mexico border.[6]

The Republican Party’s 2012 platform highlighted the fact that the rest of the double fencing was never built and stated that “The double-layered fencing on the border that was enacted by Congress in 2006, but never completed, must finally be built.”[7] The Washington Office on Latin America alleges on its Border Fact Check site that the extremely high cost of complying with the Secure Fence Act’s mandate-estimated at US$4.1 billion, or more than the Border Patrol’s entire annual budget of US$3.55 billion- was the main reason that it was not fulfilled.[8] In reality Congress failed to fund the project sufficiently in order to finish building the fence.


139 posted on 08/15/2015 4:32:52 PM PDT by woofie
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To: discostu

So you KNOW Trump isn’t a patriot. You KNOW he doesn’t love the USA. You KNOW he likes the flood of criminals into the country; he likes when they rape, brutalize and murder Trump’s fellow citizens. He likes all that and wishes it to continue—you KNOW it.


140 posted on 08/15/2015 4:33:40 PM PDT by Fantasywriter (Any attempt to do forensic work using Internet artifacts is fraught with pitfalls. JoeProbono)
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