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To: X Fretensis
Don’t ever recall a large hindu, moslem, buddist, or Shinto, population in the U.S. before the modern era. So who do you suppose bought and owned slaves in the Western Hemisphere

But that's the point he is making... there was a buyer and a seller, and you focus entirely on the buyers, ignore the fact that most of the purchased slaves did not come here, and choose to label the purchasers as Christians rather than as Southerners, or Democrats, or anything else. You forgive and ignore the Muslim sellers (who did the real evil of stealing free people from their homes and families), and you focus on only the 3 percent of buyers who were likely majority Christian, although not acting in a very Christian manner for the most part (although many did teach slaves from the Bible). You choose to smear one small group in the trade, and ignore the vast majorities involved who are of other faiths... including faiths that openly encourage and condone the trade.

50 posted on 08/15/2015 6:51:37 PM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: Teacher317

I did not focus on the the buyers or the sellers. It takes a seller and a buyer. His statement was that the Muzzies captured and sold them, yet they still convert to Islam.
My point was that it was Christians that bought them and they for the most part those that surived are now Christian. I do not forgive or forget the Moslem seller. My point was in to a dumb ass statement about muzzies. He is the one that assigned a religious connotation to the slave trade discussion. No buyers, i.e. Catholics in Brazil or Guyana, Anglicans in Jamaica, or Baptists in South Carolina would have meant no slave trade to the Western Hemisphere. Would that have meant an end to Slave trade, no, I am sure the Ottoman Sultans would have been more than happy to buy them. But, in addition to those bought by the Ottoman Sultan, the rest were sold to the Christian Counties of the Western Hemisphere. Both religion have much blood on their hand when it comes to the slave trade.


53 posted on 08/15/2015 7:18:42 PM PDT by X Fretensis
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To: Teacher317

Those muslim slavers would have had competition from the Europeans, except that Europeans did not have the immunities to the local diseases and remained on their ships.

The price of a slave (at the point of origin) was put as the value of one or more guns/barrels of powder/shot. The muslim slavers then used the guns traded by the ship-bound Europeans to terrorize (wage jihad) the locals and get more slaves.

If Islam never existed, there is a very good chance that African blacks would never have been enslaved, or certainly not on the historic scale.


58 posted on 08/16/2015 3:57:55 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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