Ahmed Mohamed: Handcuffed for Making a Clock? | True News - Stefan Molyneux

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[4rcane]

On Monday 9/14, Ahmed Mohammed, a 14-year-old Texan kid, made the national headlines after he was suspended from school for bringing an alarm clock he had supposedly built himself. Later Barack Obama tweeted "Cool clock, Ahmed. Want to bring it to the White House? We should inspire more kids like you to like science. It's what makes America great." As is to be expected, there is far more to this story!

[jsanders2001]

> Easily done via the buzzer circuit.

You phrased it differently but exactly what I meant. When I took executive protection theory I was shown how an RC car could be wired up the same but far moree deadly since it was mobile and could be detonated remotely.

[ViLaLuz]

The whole thing is a set up so CAIR can sue.

[2harddrive]

But, Ahmed DID make, or possess a fully-functioning DETONATOR. The alarm triggered in his backpack. That point must also be emphasized.

[cynwoody]

The device was essentially an IED awaiting the loading of explosives (initiator and explosive charge).

A pressure cooker is "essentially an IED awaiting the loading of explosives (initiator and explosive charge)."

[cynwoody]

The thing also was set up to run of a 9v back up battery,all he had to do was splice in an on off switch.

Nope. It's from the 1980s. Its display was made of red LEDs. Those use too much energy to run off batteries for a reasonable amount of time. Modern clocks use liquid crystal displays and can run on batteries for years.

The 9-volt was purely to maintain the time across power outages, e.g., so that, if you unplugged it and moved it somewhere else, you wouldn't need to set it when you plugged it back in. Without AC, it was non-functional as a clock or as an alarm clock.

[WhiskeyX]

“A pressure cooker is “essentially an IED awaiting the loading of explosives (initiator and explosive charge).””

Yes, it can be, and any student, Muslim or non-Muslim, who brings a pressure cooker to school without proper cause, prior notice, and safe inspection should be treated as a potential bomber in this day and age of global terrorism.

Furthermore, your inexcusable defense of Ahmed Mohammed and attempt to inappropriately trivialize the very real potential threat of his unarmed IED fails to acknowledge the device had no other credible purpose than to serve as a dummy IED. It certainly no longer qualified as a normal clock given the way in which it was disassembled and rearranged as a typical IED with the digital clock display hidden in a briefcase just like the briefcase IED constructed from the same type of Radio Shack Micronta alarm clock that was used to kill all the people aboard the Air India Flight. You have also failed to note how Ahmed Mohammed lied in his news media interviews, when he falsely claimed to have built a clock himself, not to mention his false statements about the events at the school.

[Rome2000]

Interesting

[WhiskeyX]

“Without AC, it was non-functional as a clock or as an alarm clock.”

That is false. The Air India flight was blown out of the sky using the same type of Radio Shack Micronta alarm clock by using a lantern battery as the power source, instead of the 9V battery. If the boy was used as a means of conducting a dry run to test security measures at a typical Texas school, then no explosives or batteries were required to complete the task of introducing a dummy IED to see what would happen. The next IED brought into a school may not be a dummy.

[cynwoody]

That is false. The Air India flight was blown out of the sky using the same type of Radio Shack Micronta alarm clock by using a lantern battery as the power source, instead of the 9V battery.

Get a clue.

The Air India clock was made for automotive use. That's why it could run on a 12-volt lantern battery.

If the boy was used as a means of conducting a dry run to test security measures at a typical Texas school, then no explosives or batteries were required to complete the task of introducing a dummy IED to see what would happen. The next IED brought into a school may not be a dummy.

You'd make a lousy terrorist.

If you're going to insist on fitting your time bomb into a pencil case, a Casio F-91W would be a far better choice of timer:

AQ watch timer on perf board (2002)

No need for a hulking Micronta and its enormous lantern battery! If you're careful, you might even be able to get some pencils into your pencil case to show teach. Remember, bombs are not supposed to look like bombs!

The watch runs on its own internal battery. The alarm is wired to a relay. When it goes off, the relay sends the 9-volt battery's current through the external leads, setting off whatever they are wired to.

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[Freedom56v2]

No rational person would have found Ahmed’s lame “project” threatening.

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It was a hoax—I believe there are fed. laws prohibiting hoax. I am confident that if my boys (both now professional engineers) would have pulled that stunt, they would have been handed a very lengthy suspension.

[ladyjane]

So basically you have more problems with dumb teachers than mini-jihadists, is that correct?

LOL - Excellent!

[Yardstick]

The Air India clock was made for automotive use. That's why it could run on a 12-volt lantern battery.

You got a link for this? I read somewhere that the Air India clock was a Micronta like the Texas kid's. And aren't most lantern batteries 6V?

[cynwoody]

You got a link for this?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_India_Flight_182#Explosives_and_clocks

I read somewhere that the Air India clock was a Micronta like the Texas kid's.

It was. But it was a different type than Ahmed's.

And aren't most lantern batteries 6V?

They are. But 12-volt lantern batteries are easy enough to come by.

$10.84 at Zoro.com (cheaper than Amazon). 5.25" high by 4.875" wide by 2.875" deep — a bit bulky for Ahmed's Walmart pencil case, I'd say.

[Yardstick]

Okay, good info — thanks.