Posted on 09/24/2015 4:35:04 AM PDT by marktwain
That’s got me thinking:
Which delivers the quickest second shot, the Double Auto or an O/U? I suppose there’s less recoil with the former therefore faster recovery.
More of an 870 fan myself. All four gauges for skeet.
I like the Ugartechea. I have always liked side by sides.
But the Double Auto is so much faster to reload, especially after a single shot.
I have the good fortune to be of fairly “average” stature, so factory guns fit me quite well.
Both the Cutts and Poly throw nice patterns. They don’t always reduce the value though. I got a good deal on a Winchester 42 with a Cutts. On closer examination, I found it had no choke mark. That means, it was factory installed. Schwing’s book on the 42 lists only 66 factory Cutts guns as having been produced. And none of them were a plain (non rib) barrel like the one I had. Sold it for a good profit to a serious Model 42 collector and was able to purchase a Caesar Guerini clays gun.
When I say a SERIOUS collector, here’s some pictures of part of his 184 strong collection.
http://shotgunworld.com/bbs/viewtopic.php?f=60&t=405834
Same here 5’ 9” 165... the only game where my physique ever gave me an advantage.
Don’t shoot SXS particularly well, but they are beautiful.
Did you see the thread I posted on my Ithaca?
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/2947889/posts
Too bad he did not make a mention in “Unintended Consequences”.
I suspect John Ross knows him.
One of the fastest doubles shooters I’ve known shot an 870 (he’s also the only person I know that wore one out). The ejected hull would be about a foot from the gun when he shot his second bird. Much faster than any of the autos I’m aware of.
O/U’s primary advantage aren’t speed so much as balance and the ability to have 2 chokes for weird presentations... and of course tubes for skeet.
I have now. Great pictures.
Speaking of 16 gauges, I just sent 40 rds of #1 buck to my daughter. She is not much involved in shooting at present, being more concerned with career and babies (both of which I approve of) but she has the 16 gauge model 11 Remington that I gave her.
I wanted her to have something a bit more useful for defensive purposes than bird shot.
16 gauge buck took me about a year to find. I ordered some three months ago, but the order showed up without the buckshot! This order is supposed to arrive any day now...
It seems to become available, now and then...
During the first great ammo run, I cleaned out Albuquerque of 16 gauge buckshot. Some boxes had been around so long they were still priced $1.99. I call them my “Purple People Eaters”.
Just acquired a 16 model 1897. Having hard time finding much to put through it. Why are 16g ammo so scarce compared to 12? Popularity?
I paid $5.03 a box of five for Federal classic #1 buck, 2 3/4”. I found them in Sportsman’s Guide. I would love to see them produce a 16 gauge version of the Flight Control loads, but they likely do not make the wads in 16 gauge.
I have a couple of hundred rounds of 16 gauge birdshot that I do not have a 16 gauge for!
Been on the lookout for an inexpensive 16, but I may just give it to the daughter..
It will be a few years before the grandson is old enough to introduce to shooting and hunting.
You might try Sportsman’s guide.
When I ordered the buck on the net, they had a code for free shipping.
Thanks, I will get on it as soon as I have my coffee!
16 gauge is an acquired taste, so finding ammo can be a chore. Presently, the two best target loads I’ve come across are the Fiocchi 1 ounce, and the Herter’s 1 ounce (from Cabela’s). Unfortunately, you have to buy a flat at a time online (10 boxes), but Cabela’s frequently has free shipping for orders over $99.
Your 1897, depending on vintage, may have a 2 9/16” chamber, and most commercial ammo is 2 3/4” (shotgun shells are measured after being fired). Using the longer ammo can lead to higher chamber pressure (the 1897 is bull strong) and ejection problems. There are 2 1/2” shells available from RST and Polywad, but they’re even more expensive.
The most common inexpensive 16 I see is an Ithaca 37, usually with a poly. Ones in decent condition are around $300 here.
I will be picking it up today and take it down to the range for a test drive, ought to be fun!
Keep your thumb out of the way and enjoy.
Been carrying a .45 all my adult life, thumb knows how to behave. :-)
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