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To: BlackFemaleArmyCaptain

This is the Catholic point of view, then, now and always.
There is a church, it is a community, and going it alone isn’t a good thing. If you want to go personally mystical that’s fine, but coming back afterwards with “God told me this..” is problematic.


11 posted on 09/24/2015 6:32:31 PM PDT by buwaya
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To: buwaya

Scripture states that WE the believers in Christ ARE His church, not some building.


39 posted on 09/24/2015 6:49:33 PM PDT by stilloftyhenight (In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act. George Orwell)
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To: buwaya

I don’t know anyone who believes we are to go it alone. That said, a church member who doesn’t know HIM personally is nothing but a tare in the wheat field. Church membership cannot save you because salvation is individual, not corporate. No priest or pope will be there to plead your case when you stand at the bar of judgment.


46 posted on 09/24/2015 6:51:23 PM PDT by .45 Long Colt
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To: buwaya

That is correct.

Vatican II has not revoked a teaching that outside the Church there is no salvation. The logical conclusion is that Jesus is not fully personally present to those who are outside the Church.(Eph 2:11-13) Since the Church is nourished as the body of Christ.(Eph 5:29)

Therefore, to be outside is not to be fully nourished by the power of Christ.


62 posted on 09/24/2015 6:58:27 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: buwaya

What Church did the thief on the Cross that established a sincere relationship with Christ go to?


100 posted on 09/24/2015 7:29:19 PM PDT by rollo tomasi (Working hard to pay for deadbeats and corrupt politicians.)
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