How Should Police Stop A Knife-Swinging Laquan On PCP?

Misadventures in Diversity ^ | 11/25/15 | Donald Joy

[Springfield Reformer]

Exactly right.

[IChing]

Hmmm, been trained on deadly force yourself, huh? So why didn’t you back up your claim with specifics, as I did?

[IChing]

Hmmm, been trained on deadly force yourself, huh? So why didn’t you back up your claim with specifics, as I did?

[kjam22]

I don’t know how “trained” I am in deadly force. I have a carry and conceal. Even I know that I can’t shoot the guy in that circumstance. The guy was not endangering the cop. And if the cop argues that he thought he was in danger... gee... he should have gotten back in his car and cried like a little baby. Of found someone he could give a speeding ticket to.

[IChing]

Did you miss the part about the taser wires? You can see them in the video. McDonald trots along a few more steps, ynaffected, after the taser was deployed on him.

[IChing]

Well-said. One source said only 2 of the 16 rounds were fatal, the rest landed in outer extremities.

[Springfield Reformer]

If Van Dyke thought it was a gun, he walks, provided jury follows Graham v Connor instructions

The "reasonable officer" standard of Graham v Conner is an objective standard, which means it won't rely entirely or even mostly on Van Dyke's personal opinion that he thought the victim was reaching for a gun. The standard is more like, "if any other reasonable officer would have done the same thing under the same circumstances," then he comes out OK. Based on the video, I don't see that working real well for the jury in this case.

Peace,

SR

[IChing]

As for training, maybe you should read the article (the author happens to have decades of it).

[Bullish]

16 bullets is 15 too many just about any way you look at it.

[IChing]

“No one” ?

[JennysCool]

The tragedy is that it took them 12 months to charge this crappy cop.

Cop deserves some punishment for literal overkill, but first-degree murder is ridiculous.

[PLMerite]

“First, he gets his love of riots and protests from his BLM shock troops.”

Except somebody’s apparently started to use them for target practice now. Could make it interesting.

[TalBlack]

The questioner acts as though there is a physical standard for police when in fact there isnt. This wasn’t a hard question to answer 50 years ago.

[IChing]

May I suggest you watch the video about the 21-foot rule, then tell me what you think?

Oh, and here’s a documentary on Surviving Edged Weapons:

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLCB5A88D25B0CF7E8

[Vermont Lt]

Not one that I’ve heard. Except his lawyer and the “blacks are always wrong” crowd here on FR.

[IChing]

Read the last paragraph of the article.

[Eagles6]

You are making a very broad and , I believe, unfounded assumption.

[IChing]

Glad someone bothered to read the article and comprehend it, and shows a thinking logical mind.

[Roger Kaputnik]

“How Should Police Stop A Knife-Swinging Laquan On PCP?”

I don’t know, maybe shoot him 16 times?

[Eagles6]

"Oh, and by the way, as for the number of shots fired, the official answer is that once deadly force is deemed justified, the number of shots is really moot — although we all know that the public, media, and jurors can imagine that there can be some kind of “excessive” force beyond deadly force."