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To: IChing

Minimum response, if there is an imminent threat, is two rounds to center mass to neutralize the threat. Then you reassess while making sure there are no other threats. 16 rounds, when there was no imminent threat, is going to send this officer away for long time.


4 posted on 11/25/2015 12:05:12 PM PST by AlaskaErik (I served and protected my country for 31 years. Progressives spent that time trying to destroy it.)
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To: AlaskaErik

16 rounds, when there was no imminent threat, is going to send this officer away for long time.

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Based on what law or precedent?

If it’s in line with his training, Supreme court decisions, or testimony from experts about such situations, he’ll be exonerated as most officers in these cases are.


16 posted on 11/25/2015 12:14:49 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: AlaskaErik
It may be possible that a person can close the 21 foot distance in one and a half seconds but that is only true if the perp is standing up. If two shots takes him down the other 16 were unnecessary and overkill (no pun intended).

I saw the film. The perp on PCP was being stupid but if he had been captured would not have received anything close to a death sentence. I'm hard pressed to call it murder in the 1st degree but it was murder. Unfortunately the cop had a history of overreacting with force, this will not end well for him. The cop will likely spend many well deserved years behind bars with those he put there.

I may sound harsh but as a society we give our police great power and authority. The only way to make sure they don't abuse it is to come down very very hard when they do.

I imagine if the cop had it do over again he would rethink using lethal force or continuing to use it after the perp went down. Continuing to shoot that many times after the perp is on the ground was unnecessary and murder.

19 posted on 11/25/2015 12:17:04 PM PST by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: AlaskaErik
"Oh, and by the way, as for the number of shots fired, the official answer is that once deadly force is deemed justified, the number of shots is really moot — although we all know that the public, media, and jurors can imagine that there can be some kind of “excessive” force beyond deadly force."
80 posted on 11/25/2015 1:29:38 PM PST by Eagles6 ( Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: AlaskaErik

Except it appears there was an imminent threat.

Your minimum response is two rounds is a minimum.

Many instructors teach to keep on shooting until the threat is down and no longer a threat.


144 posted on 11/25/2015 4:25:03 PM PST by marktwain
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