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Patriots continue to struggle with loss to Dolphins
nfl.com ^ | Jan. 3, 2016 | Gregg Rosenthal

Posted on 01/04/2016 6:44:01 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper

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To: mdmathis6

With “properly inflated” footballs, the Pats beat the Colts by 4 TDs in the second half. Sort of casts doubt on your implied thesis.


21 posted on 01/04/2016 8:15:14 AM PST by neocon1984
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To: neocon1984

The point was that perhaps the Pats and Brady’s total percentages have gone down because he has to play without cheating!


22 posted on 01/04/2016 8:25:54 AM PST by mdmathis6
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To: mdmathis6

And without getting younger too. Which was the whole point of setting up his deflated football scam.


23 posted on 01/04/2016 8:39:37 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The other five AFC playoff teams should send a “Thank You” card to Ndamukong Suh.


24 posted on 01/04/2016 8:40:27 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I am picking a Steelers-Seahawks Super Bowl.


25 posted on 01/04/2016 8:41:28 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: dfwgator

I’ll join you in rooting for the Steelers.
(we rooting for Steelers right?)


26 posted on 01/04/2016 9:02:14 AM PST by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I’m pretty neutral. If there’s a team I’d like to see win it all, it would be the Texans, but I don’t see them getting very far.

I’d like the see the Chiefs do well.

And the Redskins, if for nothing else to see how awkward Goodell is when he has to present the trophy, would he dare say the “R-Word”?


27 posted on 01/04/2016 9:04:48 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: kidd
He is a good QB, not a great QB. Always has been. The success of the Patriots in the past has been due to great kickers, great receivers and very good coaching.

Name one QB whose career was populated by "ordinary" receivers.

28 posted on 01/04/2016 9:58:18 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: kidd

That’s nuts. Without Brady the Pats don’t sniff a Super Bowl.


29 posted on 01/04/2016 10:00:05 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: mdmathis6
The point was that perhaps the Pats and Brady’s total percentages have gone down because he has to play without cheating!

Or maybe without a couple of the greatest receivers to have ever played the game.

30 posted on 01/04/2016 10:01:32 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Obamanomics:Trickle Up Poverty)
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To: mdmathis6

But it is a stupid point, because his percentages were up by a lot from last year until he lost both of his tackles and the backup, and were playing with a center coming off PUP at RT and a guy recently signed to the practice squad at LT; had lost his guards and their primary backup; had lost his top two running backs - one of which was his passing back - all of his short-yardage receivers around which the offense is built; and Gronkowski and his backup got dinged up.

As it is, he’s still leading the NFL in TDs, only a hundred yards back from the lead in yardage, and the fewest interceptions for those attempting over 250 passes...and still a higher completion percentage than last year.

Not to mention that there’s no actual evidence the balls were unnaturally deflated last year, and strong evidence that they weren’t.


31 posted on 01/04/2016 10:28:52 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: kidd

Brady has GREAT receivers to throw to?

Through his career he has mostly thrown to cast-offs and been among the best with them. On occasion he has had an actually good receiver and he blows the doors off the league when he has two. Like him or not, your comment isn’t merely wrong, but other-dimension wrong.


32 posted on 01/04/2016 10:33:00 AM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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To: PJammers

Using my logic?

Using my logic:
Joe Montana and Steve Young had Dwight Clark and Jerry Rice to pass to. Jerry Rice missed almost all of 1987 due to an injury. The 49er’s finished 13-3 without any Jerry Rice in 1987 - which is a testament to the quality of the 49er QBs. Montana was one of the coolest cucumbers to ever play and was brilliant, leading to a lot of last minute wins. Montana was a great QB.

Terry Bradshaw had Franco Harris and Lynn Swann to throw to. Franco Harris didn’t have any significant injuries because he would run out of bounds instead of taking a hit. Lynn Swann didn’t have any significant injuries either (but he was a good conservative). So its hard to say hhow Bradshaw would have done without his great receivers. Bradshaw was helped by a very strong Steelers defense, which gave him lots of opportunities to play offense. Bradshaw had one of the strongest arms in NFL history. Dumb as a rock though.

Bradshaw had a LOT of backing. Bradshaw missed the middle of 1976 due to an injury; some rookie QB took over and the Steelers went 6-0 with the rookie and without Bradshaw. Was Bradshaw great, or were the Steelers as a team great? I’d judge that the Steelers as a team was great - hard to single out Bradshaw as “great”


33 posted on 01/04/2016 10:34:56 AM PST by kidd
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To: lepton

Are you kidding me?

Gronk is one of the finest players in the game.
Edelman and Amendola are outstanding!

In the past, Brady has had Dion Branch, Randy Moss, Hernandez-the-murderer, Wes Welker and Danny Woodhead to help him out. These players were all stars on the teams they were traded to (except Hernandez)


34 posted on 01/04/2016 10:47:57 AM PST by kidd
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To: mdmathis6

The supposed cheating (of which there is no evidence) happened in the first half of a very tight game. The Colts were demolished after the footballs were inflated.

Do you have other conspiracy theories rolling around in that feverish brain of yours?


35 posted on 01/04/2016 3:27:43 PM PST by neocon1984
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To: kidd

The numbers don’t lie my friend. He owns or has share of over 50 NFL records. Tom Brady will go down as one of the greatest QBs to ever play the game.


36 posted on 01/04/2016 4:45:14 PM PST by PJammers (Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?)
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To: kidd

Considering he’s been a starting QB for 15 years, and that much of the list didn’t last 4 years...yeah.

The first 6 years only includes Dieon Branch...who didn’t do much in Seattle. Then there’s Welker and Moss for three and a third years, of which he was on IR for a year, but includes the “blew the doors off the league” portion I referred to. ...and so forth.


37 posted on 01/05/2016 1:12:06 PM PST by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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