[kearnyirish2]

Alcohol abuse is uncivilized; I’ve done it myself.

[ConservingFreedom]

Rather than expect civilized behavior, we are to lower our expectations: de-criminalize drug use, and now public urination.

What's "uncivilized" about drug use? Is use of the drug alcohol "uncivilized"?

Alcohol abuse is uncivilized; I've done it myself.

I agree that ABuse of anything is uncivilized. You implied a stronger statement: that any use of drugs is uncivilized. Does that apply to the drug alcohol?