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Three Strikes - 3rd Time This Campaign Season NBC/WSJ Caught Promoting Agenda Polls
The Conservative Treehouse ^ | 02/17/2016 | Sundance

Posted on 02/17/2016 4:57:15 PM PST by PJBankard

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To: moehoward

READ MY LIPS, I AM NOT DISPUTING THAT NH SHOWED DIFF RESULTS.


61 posted on 02/17/2016 6:51:37 PM PST by traderrob6
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To: PJBankard

I was thinking same. When Trump lost Iowa the polls right before were within the margin of error and pretty accurate.

New Hampshire was quite accurate and it looks like SC is the same as New Hampshire.


62 posted on 02/17/2016 6:53:58 PM PST by GilGil
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To: Uncle Miltie

South Carolina is nothing like Iowa.


63 posted on 02/17/2016 6:58:45 PM PST by Lagmeister ( false prophets shall rise, and shall show signs and wonders Mark 13:22)
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To: StAnDeliver

what are you babbling about?


64 posted on 02/17/2016 7:03:04 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: newfreep

my anti GOP cred every three minutes dwarfs whatever contribution you’ve made to the cause in your entire life. Way way way ahead of you, whoever you are.


65 posted on 02/17/2016 7:04:02 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: StAnDeliver

but he’s behind among the educated everywhere else.

You point to NH as if it’s some great bellweather. Figures, you support a liberal and you contantly talk about a liberal state. Makes sense.


66 posted on 02/17/2016 7:05:40 PM PST by C. Edmund Wright (WTF? How Karl Rove and the Establishment Lost...Again (Amazon Best Seller))
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To: C. Edmund Wright

Hey hey back from a time out I see. How was juvie? LOL!

Let’s talk Sat night about 10:00 PM when Trump is giving his victory speech and of course again for a repeat on Tuesday night.

Don’t hate me because I’m always well, Wright. LOL!


67 posted on 02/17/2016 7:24:42 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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To: stocksthatgoup
Nice Chart

It is from HuffPost if that is your cup of tea.

68 posted on 02/17/2016 7:38:26 PM PST by LowOiL (Woe to you when all men speak well of you, for that is how their fathers treated the false prophets.)
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To: jennychase
"Cruz bots had posted this agenda poll atleast 20 times, since it came out. After having Post Graduate Degree in Statistics and Mathematics, God very difficult to explain anything to dumb Cruz bots.

Education is important, don’t drop out of college. - jennychase

Jenny, your MS degree should have taught you something about classical logic. Ad hominem attacks, preemptive or otherwise, do not prove arguments. They do not WIN arguments.

They DO divide and alienate. They do NOT win elections for conservatives.

Also, your insinuation that the OP was uneducated and ignorant for supporting Cruz is the FAVORITE, insulting argument of progressives and atheists against Christian Conservatives. Why on earth would you want to associate yourself with such an argument?

This tactic DOES follow a different script, however.

#5 "Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon."

#13 "Pick the target, freeze it, personalize it, and polarize it. Cut off the support network and isolate the target from sympathy."

Alinskyite tactics are inconsistent with conservationism, which is why may conservatives are so opposed to Trump. I don't know about Trump, but we FReepers are better than that.

I'd suggest that in principle, pejorative, marginalizing terms like "Cruzers", "Cruz-bots", "Trump bots", "Trumppets", and so on ought never to be used on FreeRepublic. I hope you agree.

FReegards!

69 posted on 02/17/2016 7:43:07 PM PST by OldSaltUSN
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To: traderrob6

So you’re assuming the demo breakdown for Trump for NH is unique?

Doesn’t make sense. More likely Iowa is the outlier. Historically that’s the case.


70 posted on 02/17/2016 7:44:11 PM PST by moehoward
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To: jennychase
Jenny -

Unlike you, I have no advaned degree in math because calculus... But I have been the go to guy for stats at various jobs.. Here on FR I have posted chrts and graphs on the GOP polling. NBC has two different polls Survey Monkey, which is in line with other national polls and, "Wall Street Journal", henceforth known as, "Monkey With Numbers". I have removed all NBC/WSJ National polls from my database of all GOP polls, which now numbers 520 polls, and goes back to August 1.
71 posted on 02/17/2016 7:47:47 PM PST by BigEdLB (Take it Easy, Chuck. I'm Not Taking it Back -- Donald Trump)
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To: wardaddy
Pretty honest from a Cruz supporter...well done wardaddy

Side-channeling in to your conversation with Miltie, honesty is refreshing from all sides. Compliments.

My feeling is that the polls for Cruz versus Trump are close. I think Trump drilled a hole in his own hull with his attack on the GOP vis-a-vis 9/11 and the Iraq war. What he said was not only demonstrably false, it validates the Democrat party's lies, and damns every Republican voter who supported the war, or our warriors. I think it'll cost Trump in SC primary, at the least. (Note: That Kerry guttersnipe argument used in 2004 about supporting the troops, while opposing the war was just cover for the Democrats using the war for political advantage. Every new bodybag was another 10 Democrat votes for Kerry, so he gave all the "aid and comfort" he could to the enemy. That's why 2004/5 turned out to be such banner years for Jahidi hunting, AND American body bags.)

As for supporting Trump in the General Election if he wins the primary, I'm disposed to beat the Democrats, but don't think he will. He's certainly going to have to figure out how to walk back the Iraq and 9/11 lies, AND have a "come to Jesus" moment with conservatives after all the destruction he's causing, or we won't see conservatives at the polls for him.

We ain't the donkey's. The ends do not justify the means. Trump can get my vote and those of other conservatives, but he had better stop the bombast and fix the problems he caused.

FReegards.

72 posted on 02/17/2016 8:22:04 PM PST by OldSaltUSN
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To: OldSaltUSN

Logically, you don’t repeat the same process over and over again and expect different results.

Your assumption that many conservatives don’t support Trump is illogical as polling internals tell you otherwise, amongst other things.


73 posted on 02/17/2016 8:24:06 PM PST by PJBankard (It is the spirit of the men who leads that gains the victory. - Gen. George Patton)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Fox comes out with another Murdoch controlled poll tommorow. Let’s see how that looks.


74 posted on 02/17/2016 9:50:26 PM PST by NKP_Vet (In matters of style, swim with the current; in matters of principle,stand like a rock ~ T, Jefferson)
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To: PJBankard

Don’t worry, the end is near. Sunday things will be much clearer.


75 posted on 02/17/2016 9:58:55 PM PST by McGruff (Flexibility is a good thing, but you should not be flexible on core principles - Ted Cruz)
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To: OldSaltUSN

Fair enough

But it works both ways

I can list about a dozen notables who support a Trump but besides that every single entity and agent of the GOP, conservatism, and the GOPe have conducted scorched earth in their unsuccessful attempt to kill Trump for 7 months reaching its zenith now in utter desperation since they see their hopes fading

What do they owe him now when becomes the nominee?

That is just as fair if not more so a question

I don’t see the polls close at all


76 posted on 02/17/2016 11:00:34 PM PST by wardaddy (Boy the nasties are sure out in force here.....I hope someone is saving this...Trump Cruz that order)
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Here’s the link to the locked one. No need to link the half dozen or so topics touting the cooked-books poll.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3398563/posts


77 posted on 02/18/2016 12:33:47 AM PST by SunkenCiv (Here's to the day the forensics people scrape what's left of Putin off the ceiling of his limo.)
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To: moehoward

Forget it. Can’t communicate with someone so obtuse.


78 posted on 02/18/2016 5:09:47 AM PST by traderrob6
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To: PJBankard

I used to like going to Freerepublic but it seems that all the FREEPS do is devolve into arguing with each other about how educated they are and how much smarter some are because they support a certain person and how much stupid others are because they support someone else.......nothing meaningful any more. People I only have one thing to say, education does not = intelligence. I think one of the biggest problems we have today is that there are far too many people educated way beyond their intelligence.

Men are born ignorant, not stupid; they are made stupid by education.
Bertrand Russell

Education consists mainly of what we have unlearned.
Mark Twain

Bottom line is we have to take this country back from the Marxist, Socialist, Progressive leftists that are destroying it.


79 posted on 02/18/2016 5:18:39 AM PST by democratsaremyenemy (Suspended for being a winner)
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To: traderrob6

CBS News poll: Trump maintains commanding lead [2/12-2/16 Trump 35%, Cruz 18%, Rubio 12%]

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3398607/posts

Trump’s support cuts across nearly every demographic group in the Republican electorate.

He holds a double digit lead among Republicans and independents, men and women, white evangelicals, and Americans of all income levels.

He leads among Republican voters of all age and education levels, but does particularly well among voters without college degrees.”


80 posted on 02/18/2016 5:30:35 AM PST by newfreep (TRUMP & <S>Cruz</S> 2016 - "Evil succeeds when good men do nothing" - Edmund Burke)
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