Posted on 04/10/2016 9:33:12 PM PDT by proust
Voterless victory?
Lol. You understand they had the chance to vote on March 1, right?
Voterless victory?
Lol. You understand they had the chance to vote on March 1, right?
So, the ends justify the means???
Good luck with that.
The Republic ends if the GOPe forces a Canadian into the office of the President.
On office built upon a foundation Lie will bring pain and suffering
Are you falling for the ‘Supreme Court’ lie? It was a Bush Appointee that gave us ObamaCare.. and NONE of the folks the GOPe will allow to run for President will secure the borders.
So really, other than the hype...what difference does it make? They’re corrupt elites - - our corrupt elites... not a dimes worth of difference.
Maybe you can explain the difference between our creepy elites and their creepy elites...
I am comtemplating voting a staright D ticket when the GOPe steals this from Trump
Where is his quote? Source? You are just repeating lies.
MagnoliaB wrote:
“After the crap that got pulled in Colorado, I think the GOP and Cruz are toast. They gave a BIG FAT MIDDLE FINGER to voters. In a ranking of church attendance by state Colorado is 35th on the list. So the GOP is saying that a Dominion Theologian is who they would pick? Sorry, not buying it. I can’t see the anger not erupting. This maneuver by Crus sure does reek of Dominionism.”
Thanks magnoliaB!
Whenifhow, eccl_1212, dynoman
Here’s the video where Cruz dad says Cruz is ‘anointed’ (h/t dynoman)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3419046/posts?page=7#7
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNa5w9js48s
(Lots of folks didn’t buy it; that’s why Trump is ahead.)
All yall, I’m looking for any others like that vid.
How much crack do you smoke on a daily basis? Cruz’s ground Game has been in place since October.
Now take a seat.
Where is his quote? Source? You are just repeating lies.
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Reply was to post #46 which is below
See this twitter comment
Priebus said to use the die old machines in NY to keep Trump under 50 percent
https://mobile.twitter.com/kimjgoodwin/status/718198390006423552
Maybe it was confused with this post? click on the last link to find the quote or listen to the video.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3419594/posts?page=55#55
From the 3 min mark to the 4 min mark or listen a little longer to 6 min mark on the topic.
21:23 Minutes
Ted Cruz Takes Questions from Sean Sean Hannity CPAC (3-4-16)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2w5PvJX4x-E
http://hotair.com/archives/2016/03/05/cruz-just-say-no-to-a-contested-convention/
Quote here post by true believer forever
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/3419594/posts?page=35#35
Thanks onyx.. will do.
I am not sure where all of this will end. I am pretty confident that DJT will do all in his power to help the fraud and unethical “legal” come front and center and confront it all.
The evil in this country that is NOT we the people, is very busy..
Turning us into a North American Union, with open borders, passing pathways to legalization for invaders by the millions, getting globalist Goldman Sachs wifey selected to the CFR for Paper peddling the North American Community are not a large comfort to Judeo-Christian values.
You support the creep who thinks our country can be sucked up and used a leveraged money maker for the globalists, while selling his geese that we can be charity for the globe, and you self righteously call it all....Judeo Christian values.
Cruz is a proven liar and a thief, and daring to excuse it by calling the Cruz lies and theft “Judeo Christian” valued, nearly makes Christians sick.
Fortunately, the RNC is cruzing for a shake up. So are you.
You can believe he has a ground game, but it’s not his.
It’s Romney’s.
All Cruz had was a handful of people under Jeff Roe who is known to be highly unethical and dishonest.
Cruz and his ‘team’ have joined with Romney’s minions and are using Clinton tactics. Their kind are not tolerable. We will have honesty and ethics, count on it.
Turning us into a North American Union, with open borders, passing pathways to legalization for invaders by the millions, getting globalist Goldman Sachs wifey selected to the CFR for Paper peddling the North American Community are not a large comfort to Judeo-Christian values.
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On point and bingo! After (or IF) obamabots figured out who Obama was, how did they feel ? Deceived and hopeLESS.
The elites would like nothing better than to deceive the constitutional voter into thinking the chosen candidate was on their side or going to change anything. They will be dancing in the street if the Cruz fraud is the nominee. Ineligible and a deceiver!
In a diner this past weekend, we looked around at the people. Hard. Packed.
They have no idea what is going on. We all got that vibe.
In a diner this past weekend, we looked around at the people. Hard. Packed.
They have no idea what is going on. We all got that vibe.
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Absolutely - even the talking heads on tv don’t have a real understanding - they just do what they are told.
Wonder how well the public and voters were informed about it when their little plan was concocted? You know how people are, they don’t pay attention and then find out when it’s too late. With everything going like it is, it has the appearance of another dirty underhanded trick to sabotage Trump. It also makes Ted look not like the evangelical ‘outsider’ he always claims to be but more like a sneaky, morally corrupt little elitist ‘insider’ who knows all the tricks.
There are a lot of districts where the Trump side had no experienced people and were here out numbered in selecting the Chair and didn't know what to do. I know firsthand. We need help from the national Trump campaign. The caucuces are loading up Trojan delegates. Do you not grasp that?
YOU are the one that just insulted. Slithering?? Good Lord.. sigh...
Your post was condescending and loaded with lots of remarks that ignored lifetime republican party members and delegates who were wrongly left off lists of delegates and who are Trump supporters.
You may be a low-information participant that is genuinely concerned but has a limited view of the bigger picture.
I will give you the benefit of the doubt. Here’s what is happening and why it is a concern:
I know of one longstanding republican delegate who put his delegate candidacy application in before an April deadline. He showed up at his delegate convention and was not on the list. He had attended his precinct caucus on Feb 20 and showed support for Trump. He has been a delegate in the past but this year he was not on the list. He is mad as hell and is going to raise hell at the statewide convention next month. He is also looking at legal action against the State GOP because he has witnesses of the fax he sent them for his delegate application.
Now your error is in thinking that all Trump supporters are inexperienced newcomers to the process. That is wrong. There are many many seasoned hands that are for Trump and some that I know and have heard of are ready to rip limbs out over the shenanigans of those controlling list content.
Most delegate listmakers are GOPe insiders. Those that receive the lists to use at the county conventions are unaware that the lists are rigged. But those making the lists know what they are doing.
You saw a couple of newcomers at the Trump table, YOU MADE THE GENERALIZATION that all Trump supporters are the same. That is not a valid generalization. There is a very large group of longtime republicans who support Trump and who know the process as well as anyone. A few data points in sparse regions do not make for a nationwide problem. That’s where you’re off.
If the Trump campaign did not pay attention to your state, that’s because their delegate map did not count it so much for the path to 1237+. They will reach 1237 easily despite what the media says and despite what your state is doing.
The Trump campaign is now hunkering down on winning delegates as part of their longtime strategy. States like NY, CT, RI, DE, MD, PA for this month, and CA in June. Their target is 1400 delegates if they do “pretty well”, not amazing but “pretty well”. They have some of the best delegate mathematicians in the business, individuals with over 40 years in politics. They know which districts to target, which ones to bypass and they know where the 323 unbound delegates will be. When they do the map against all the state rules and processes, they know just how to set their path.
Your observations were likely in a patch they decided to bypass.
NOW,
the reason there is concern over delegates for Cruz is because there is talk of Cruz-Romney delegates angling for the Rules Committee. More on this below.
I say Cruz-Romney because Romney is the mastermind here, not Cruz. Romney is the de facto head of the Party as he was the last nominee and he inherited the apparatus and retains it because he brings the money. The money comes from Romney’s cronies and also from foreigners like Mexico. You can thank Citizens-United that you are not privy to this information. You along with millions of other Americans were snookered and in any case are a victim of the Law of Unintended Consequences.
When the Rules Committee meets, Cruz-Romney are talking about changing the rules to allow delegates to vote their conscience and effectively unbind all delegates. In other words, allow DEFECTIONS before the 1st ballot.
They are going to run a con-job with a fight breaking out on the convention floor, delegates defecting to Cruz, and then the RNC stepping in to calm things down even though the plan originated with persons in the RNC. The RNC will appear to remain ABOVE THE FRAY and will call for a runoff vote between Trump and Cruz, and possibly others, but all the delegates will be unbound because they will say rules are rules and the rules were made by delegates that were elected by grassroots voters. Yeah, right.
The RNC will make statements to the press that although Trump won most delegates before the 1st ballot, he only received 37% of the votes and the grass roots wanted all delegates unbound so that the other 63% of voters could be represented. That is what they will be doing; totally unfair and unprecedented.
This is why the Trump campaign is so concerned about what Cruz is doing, and is furious at the dishonesty that is being utilized in getting Cruz delegates in a position to break out at the Convention.
Cruz-Romney can do the delegate math too and they know very well that Trump will very likely exceed 1237. They know that. But they are investing all their time on shenanigans to deny Trump. Romney does not care that the GOP will lose in November. Several of Romney’s surrogates, for example, Lindsey Graham have voiced publicly that it would be better to have Hillary win than allow Trump to be in the White House.
So when they hatch their defections scheme, they don’t care about the fallout in the general.
You have no idea of the forces both domestic and international that are behind Romney. He is not an America first person. He is an internationalist, a North American Union supporter. He does not care, and the people he does international business with, do not care if Hillary is the winner.
Donald Trump Jr. was very clear in his tweet that the reason the entire political establishment is so against his father is because they have a very cozy arrangement where they all make money together without doing anything to earn it, but that when his father is sworn in, IT ALL ENDS FOR THESE CRONIES TIED TO THE ESTABLISHMENT.
So go on and do your best at your level to get people prepared with Robert’s Rules of Order and such, it probably won’t matter much as the fix is in.
What you can do is get an affidavit from each Cruz delegate in a Trump slot, that they swear they will not defect on the 1st ballot, that they will vote for Trump on the 1st ballot and no one else. They may not answer you directly at first because they will sidetrack to talk about state law that says they are bound on the 1st ballot. What you must do on the affidavit is get them to swear they will not allow themselves to vote against Trump EVEN IF THE NATIONAL CONVENTION RULES ARE CHANGED allowing them to become unbound before the 1st ballot.
You can research whether Cruz delegates in Trump delegate slots, can be prosecuted in their states for violating state election laws that mandate they are bound on the 1st ballot. Understand that the National GOP is legally like a private club in that they make their own rules and state rules don’t matter inside their club. But research whether violations of state law are still prosecutable. There’s a reason why there are laws and rules for binding delegates on the 1st ballot. It’s to prevent bribery from buying off delegates.
I hope I’ve given you a larger picture of what’s at stake. I wish you luck.
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