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To: BobL

Yes, I do believe that Cruz could wipe the floor with Hillary if he were the nominee. He is ten times smarter than she is and can articulate to the public just what despicable and illegal actions Hillary has done.

The notion that the GOP-e will “steal” the nomination from Trump is getting old. If Trump does not have 1,237 delegates going into the convention, he will probably not win the first vote. The rules are simple and there is nothing illegal or unscrupulous about them. Trump needs to stop whining about having Colorado stolen from him when that was nothing of the sort. Cruz knew how the procedures worked and prevailed. Trump did not. End of story. The democrats are masters of knowing procedure and how to win strategically though they also employ voter fraud which is what pushes them over the finish line.


50 posted on 04/29/2016 6:43:12 AM PDT by NoKoolAidforMe (I'm clinging to my God and my guns. You can keep the change.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Do you think that Cruz can reach HALF the delegates needed to get to the nomination?
Or more appropriately, half of the delegates that Trump gets?

If he gets so lucky.. Where will he get an increase of at least 100% of delegates in Cleveland?

And do you think he can actually be viable in a general election if he colludes his way to this type of victory?


52 posted on 04/29/2016 6:51:34 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (#NeverHillary now that we've gotten rid of Lying LOSER Ted Cruz.)
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Really How short was Mitt? 250 Delgates and currently over 333,000 votes behind Trump and Trump has 10 more States as earlier Stated Where does Ted win a State?


66 posted on 04/29/2016 7:31:30 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
Yes, I do believe that Cruz could wipe the floor with Hillary if he were the nominee. He is ten times smarter than she is and can articulate to the public just what despicable and illegal actions Hillary has done.

You can make a case that last Tuesday Ted couldn't win against Hillary.

But make the Case where Ted did get 20% of the Vote or win a County or delegate in Florida, Virginia or Ohio and beat Hillary?

68 posted on 04/29/2016 7:33:44 AM PDT by scooby321
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

You think the person who couldn’t win the Republican Primary, is going to win a General election?

Well, bless your heart.


76 posted on 04/29/2016 8:27:17 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: NoKoolAidforMe
The notion that the GOP-e will “steal” the nomination from Trump is getting old. If Trump does not have 1,237 delegates going into the convention, he will probably not win the first vote.

There it is again. Talking past the last 6 months as if they never happened.

If Donald Trump fails to get to 1,237 delegates it will be for one reason, and one reason only: the GOPe will have been successful at blunting his march to the nomination just barely enough to have denied him that.

Well, they did happen, and the GOP electorate is not suddenly going to forget that its own party elite, along with the Left and Media joined in on a relentless character assassination campaign against Donald Trump that was as slanted as humanly possible.

And the GOP voters are also going to remember that when the going got tough, Ted Cruz joined forces with the GOPe/NeverTrump crowd, and adopted their tactics 100%.

Whether it was playing the race card when he knew it to be a smear, or his total lack of leadership and loyalty to his party in the aftermath of the Chicago rally cancellation, Ted Cruz has shown his true colors, his naked opportunism, and his total lack of principle. Cruz's tactics are as Machiavellian as could be.

"Principled conservative" Ted Cruz is now beholden to the likes of Mitt Romney, Jeb Bush, John McCain, Lindsay Graham, and their GOPe ilk for the survival of his campaign to this point. He even added Neil Bush to his finance team, and we're still supposed to believe that he's an anti-Establishment outsider?

Sorry, that's a phony if I've ever seen one, and the membership of this forum, who was almost 100% behind Ted Cruz 6 months ago, has defected to the Donald Trump camp in droves.

That didn't happen by accident, and it's not going to suddenly reverse itself at this late hour.

The die is cast. It's time to move forward and unify the party behind the man who has earned the nomination Donald Trump.

Donald Trump will be the GOP nominee whether he gets to 1,237 or not. I'm surprised you haven't realized that yet. You see, the GOPe/NeverTrump crowd has now created a dynamic that guarantees Donald Trump the nomination. The GOPe fools, and the fools who follow them, didn't really think their diabolical scheme through to its logical conclusion. They counted on Trump to be weak, but instead he has shown incredible strength in the face of unbelievable adversity.

Checkmate! The GOPe has lost, and Ted Cruz, in hitching his Machiavellian wagon to theirs and showing his true colors, has lost also.

Vote Trump

95 posted on 04/29/2016 3:47:46 PM PDT by sargon
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To: NoKoolAidforMe

Let’s go through this:

“Yes, I do believe that Cruz could wipe the floor with Hillary if he were the nominee.”

You’re in a very small minority on this site, and most people here, including me, were Cruz supporters before moving to Trump. Cruz is totally boxed in as far as getting popular support for November, not a chance.

“He is ten times smarter than she is and can articulate to the public just what despicable and illegal actions Hillary has done.”

He ruled that out, by saying that he will run a campaign “on the issues”, as Bush Sr. tried to do, Dole tried to do, McCain tried to do, and Romney tried to do (but obviously Trump is doing what you think Cruz would do, but Cruz said he won’t).

“The notion that the GOP-e will “steal” the nomination from Trump is getting old.”

It’s perceptions that count. Obviously the GOPe is not about to hand Cruz the nomination, given how much they detest Cruz. If Trump and his voters, me included, who have voted straight Republican their entire lives (even in college, even when Perot ran) feel that the nomination was stolen, it doesn’t matter whether the GOPe goes into some obscure legal discussion of the rules...we walk, and we not only walk from voting Republican for president, we don’t vote Republican down-ticket either (you may want to give your elected buddies a heads up to get their resume’s ready).

“If Trump does not have 1,237 delegates going into the convention, he will probably not win the first vote.”

I won’t argue that, but if Trump is PERCEIVED to have 1237 delegates going into the convention, but then funny things happen (some get sick, others fly to Cleveland TX, etc.), see above for the guaranteed outcome...we all walk. Again, it is perceptions. You guys need to steal it from him in a way that he, or at his supporters approve of - but I doubt that’s possible.

“The rules are simple and there is nothing illegal or unscrupulous about them.”

Agree...but none of that matters because that pesky word: PERCEPTIONS is what you’re fighting. We don’t look at it through legal binoculars...because we don’t have to. I do hope you understand that winning the Republican nomination is totally meaningless when half of the Republican base will walk in November. We through with holding our noses.

“Trump needs to stop whining about having Colorado stolen from him when that was nothing of the sort. Cruz knew how the procedures worked and prevailed. Trump did not. End of story.”

Like it or not, his ‘whining’ proved to be one of the most BRILLIANT moves in political history and bodes very well for November. Along with Rush, I believe that Trump’s people knew all along that Colorado was rigged, but he sat on it, and then POUNCED at the perfect moment. He was on the ropes after Wisconsin and while he was expected to win New York, no one expected his margin of victory there or in the other states the next week. Again, it’s perceptions, and perceptions only - win the perception game and you’ve won. Given that the outcomes in the Northeast easily swamped Cruz’s ‘victory’ by ‘using the rules’, I’d say Trump was the ultimate winner, because he played to perceptions (that damn word again), rather than technicalities.

“The democrats are masters of knowing procedure and how to win strategically though they also employ voter fraud which is what pushes them over the finish line.”

Can’t argue that...at least we agree on something. But I will say if they try to steal the November election from Trump, unlike other Republicans, he will not go away quietly ‘for the unity of the country’. There will be hell to pay.


96 posted on 04/30/2016 7:18:33 AM PDT by BobL
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