Posted on 05/02/2016 9:02:11 PM PDT by pboyington
A nation that drafts women and sends them to war is in its death throes.
A nation that drafts women and sends them to war has lost its moral compass.
What kind of nation subjects mothers, daughters, wives and sisters to a military draft where they could be placed in a direct ground combat unit?
It is a nation that is spiritually bankrupt; spent, doomed and with military and civilian leaders who are either uninformed, desperate, cowards or all three.
The naysayers will state that the Soviet Union had women in combat in World War II, particularly as snipers. Yes, they did. The Soviet Union was also in mortal peril as the German Army rolled through the country in the Summer of 1941. On December 2nd, a German reconnaissance battalion reached the village of Khimki, just five miles from Moscow. The Kremlin could be seen in the distance. Then, it started snowing, the temperatures dropped to 35 below zero and Stalin counter-attacked.
Finland utilized women in Anti-Aircraft units during the Winter War in 1939-1940, after the Soviet Union invaded the country. One of those women was my former German professor at Southern Methodist University, Dr. Margareta Deschner.
Women served in direct ground combat units of the IDF during the Six Day War in 1967. The IDF had so many problems with women in direct ground combat organizations that they were pulled out of the units after the war and then used as instructors. In 2000, Israeli social engineers forced women back in the combat arms of the IDF. Today, women make up about 3% of the combat arms and serve in several battalions that are comprised of 75% females. Apparently, problems with women in these units has been covered up by the Israeli government as reported by Arutz Sheva.
On April 27, the United State House of Representatives’ Armed Services Committee voted to back an amendment that would require women to register with the Selective Service within 30 days of turning 18 years of age, as all men must currently do.
This means that if Congress ever brings back the draft, women will be forcibly sent to war and possibly be assigned to combat arms units, aka the infantry, armor, armored cavalry, artillery.
The amendment is a response to the Pentagon’s decision to allow women to serve in combat. Supporters of drafting women point out that the ban on women in combat was the reason the Supreme Court upheld a male-only draft. Therefore, they argue, it is only logical to now force women to register for Selective Service.
The U.S. House at large will vote on the Act in May 2016, which was approved by the committee 60-2 on April 28.
Congresswoman Jackie Speier (D., CA) supported the policy change: “I actually think if we want equality in this country, if we want women to be treated precisely like men are treated and that they should not be discriminated against, we should be willing to support a universal conscription.”
Except for a few crusaders, such as Congressman Duncan Hunter, a Marine Corps vet, who served in Iraq, Congress is largely supportive of the idea of drafting women.
In all honesty, Congress doesn’t really care or understand the issue; why should they? Most of Congress has never served a day in uniform.
The Joint Chiefs don’t care. They traded their souls for benefits and defense contractor jobs years ago. When the Army Chief of Staff, a Green Beret, tells the world we need to draft women, you know the end is near.
I will say it as plain as day; the senior leadership of the United States Military is the biggest collection of sycophants and moral cowards that this nation has ever placed in the Pentagon or the War Department or in a tent, 240 years ago with General Washington.
The American people don’t care. Why should they? Most Americans have never served a day in uniform and have no clue about what is happening. Most Americans have the attention span of a fruit fly and are focused on how many “Likes” they’re getting on Facebook. Most Americans think serving your country is tantamount to standing at attention with a bucket of KFC while the National Anthem is belted out by Carrie Underwood before the Daytona 500.
Furthermore, American men aren’t exactly swaggering images of John Wayne these days. They’re none too happy to send their women to war, and that speaks volumes about the decrepit state of the nation.
Why would the United States ever need to draft women, when the country has millions and millions of men to call up, should a national security emergency arise?
Unfortunately, real war is nothing like the allusions presented by Hollywood, which showcase some pint size, anorexic female cop beating the daylights out of six gang bangers on the streets of LA: or Demi Moore pretending that she’s made it through NAVY SEAL training, aka BUD/s, aka Hell on Earth: or some Game of Thrones chick wielding a 100 pound sword with the aplomb of Ivanhoe as she lays waste to hordes of marauding men.
It’s all a make believe land and now the fantasy of women in direct combat ground units and special ops is going to be played out for real.
The delusion will continue unabated to the moment the first rounds go down range in the next war. When the body bags of young American girls are stacked like cord wood, maybe the people will finally awaken.
The supporters that want to draft women are feminists and left wing loonies who will be conveniently out of danger when the women they sent to war are shot, shredded and blown up like cardboard pop up targets.
The US Military is quickly heading for a Goetterdammerung, a Downfall of the Gods, aka total destruction as with Nazi Germany in 1945. Social engineering and moral cowardice is dooming us to obliteration. We are going to smile and lie and rationalize are way to the charnel house.
The only thing that can stop the imminent destruction of the US Military is a President Trump or Cruz. If Hillary wins, start learning Russian or Chinese and brush up on your Farci.
If women don’t have the physical strength to participate in the NFL, why are we sending them to ground combat units, where physical strength and endurance are the basic tenets of survival in war?
The answer is simple: the NFL runs on a profit motive. The military has no profit incentives and is therefore the new playground of the cultural Marxists.
What kind of nation drafts women and sends them to war? Take a look around and you’ll have a pretty good idea.
At least I have a wife - you probably never will. A grown man knows that women are wonderful people. They are different in outlook and patterns of thinking but they provide balance and conscience to an otherwise brutal world.
Your very strange and malformed attitudes limit you and as long as you have them, they will prevent you from having a normal life. Your statements so far imply that you are so far out of balance that you are probably a risk for violence.
You need medical help.
Yeah, ok.
Now are you going to answer my question this year?
Maybe you can ask your wife. One of you must wear the pants and can pull it off.
Please make it clear to any outsiders that your words are directed at VanDeKoik. I certainly would not want to be strapped with his twisted logic. :)
Good point - sorry; you’re the good, normal person in this discussion.
VanDePervert is the nutcase we’re dealing with. First time I’ be ever run into somebody that deranged.
A nation that is circling the drain.
I honestly can’t think of a single job (outside of birthing a baby) that I would assume women do better than men; not that men automatically do them better, but I wouldn’t concede women do them any better either. Whether teaching, cooking, lawyers, accountants, doctors - I don’t assume women do any of them better (and the market seems to agree).
I don’t agree. Women are generally better at slow, deliberative processes and are often exceptional managers and planners. Women tend to be great at framing concepts and developing them. Women provide the stability and perspective to organizations and that’s why well-educated women are highly sought after.
Women should not be in combat units because men are the killers in this world and they don’t need the distraction of attraction and competition during war. Women, with very few exceptions, are not mentally configured for organized murder. We are.
No problem.
Really sorry I didn’t make it plainer, earlier.
As it was, every discussion I had with that guy made me feel disgusted. Really a waste of effort arguing with anyone that far gone.
Well, congratulations - we have another gutless twit advocating women for the draft. Pretty clear you never served in combat or you would have figured out how dumb an idea that is. More proof that the men of this nation have swung to the pansy side of life.
Chainmail: Would you please answer VanDeKoik's question? How is it fair to allow women the vote, even though they can't be forced to risk life and limb in the defense of their country? How is it fair to allow a privileged group to participate in making life-and-death decisions when they, themselves, have no "skin in the game?"
Just asserting that it is "dumb" is no argument.
Regards,
Ah so, the pervert has a running partner!
1. If serving in combat was the qualifyer for voting, they’re would me me and a couple of others voting and the rest of you would have to stay home.
2. Women are not suited for infantry combat.nputting them in a frontline combat unit would cripple that unit.
So, how long have you two been “married”?
“1. If serving in combat was the qualifyer for voting”
We are talking about being subjected to the draft for some sort of national service, which you are unable for some odd reason to follow.
“Women are not suited for infantry combat”
Who said put them there? It’s national service that you have to drop everything you are doing to perform. There are plenty of things they can do to free up more men for combat.
The question is why the hell are you completely ok with women being able to have the privilege of voting for a government that can send men off to combat and maybe die, but they have ZERO requirement to perform national service of ANY type?
No I don’t care if you consider them fragile little dumplings. If they are that daintily constructed then they ought not be involved in something serious as politics and war.
You refuse to answer this and instead continuously try to insult as a sad attempt at dodging.
Calling people pervert only makes you sound like a damn old retard.
And you continue to sound like a virulent and seriously unbalanced misogynist. Apparently you refuse to consider the sine qua non of young women between the ages of 18 and 30-something: most are mothers. Their primary duty to themselves and their communities is to raise their children. Drafting women of that bracket is idiocy and runs counter to nature. Raising good, healthy children is critical to society and anything else is the path to extinction. Those Moms earn the right to vote for vital service to the future of our country.
If you were normal and your brain was unskewed, you’d have figured that out all by yourself and we could have saved an awful lot of wasted time.
“And you continue to sound like a virulent and seriously unbalanced misogynist”
Thanks. That’s the goofy language I hear from feminists I debate. Do I by any chance suffer from “toxic masculinity” too?
“Apparently you refuse to consider the sine qua non of young women between the ages of 18 and 30-something: most are mothers. Their primary duty to themselves and their communities is to raise their children.”
And apparently you live in a la la land where the inconvenient fact that birthrates have tanked, few people are getting married, more kids born are the result of sex between people barely in a relationship, and millions of kids are dismembered and chucked into medical waste bags.
All by those special little dumplings you think are still like women from 1916 for some reason.
Not to mention that most people in college today are females. Most unattached, and certainly not mothers.
So these golden girls have time and next to no responsibilities and are free to serve their nation in some way like the guy that you couldn’t care less if he has something productive going on for himself.
Unfortunately, you continue to display no real-world knowledge of women. The majority of young women are mothers and doing a fine job of it - better, in fact than previous generations. I have first-hand knowledge, since I have two kids my wife and I run to school and Tae Kwon Do every day and I am surrounded by the hard working and successful mothers of my community. They are guiding the future.
As for you, why didn’t you serve your country in uniform? Why are you blaming women for your situation, your decisions?
Men become men by realizing who they are and developing their strengths through adversity, not by blaming others.
The United States doesn't draft anybody, and never will.
"Registering" women for a nonexistent draft is the LAST step, not the first, in the feminization of national defense.
And what this is intended to do is to make a return to conscription impossible.
There is zero chance - ZERO - that any unwilling female will ever serve in the armed forces in any capacity.
All this discussion is just right-wing virtue signalling.
“The majority of young women are mothers and doing a fine job of it - better, in fact than previous generations”
An almost majority of children are born to single mothers. So no, it isnt a “good job”. It’s a generation of latchkey kids...not counting the millions of ones that are aborted. I see you ignored that too.
And what about the other examples I gave of the females with no kids? Again for you vagina = pass.
Go out and spend your day in women’s studies classes, shopping at the mall, and having first world issues, guys like this got your back.
And I find it hilarious you sit there and slobber over women....but any guy that is hard working and successful can go screw off? He’s good for national service, kids or not, business or not, responsibilities or not.
“As for you, why didn’t you serve your country in uniform?”
Same reason a lot of people have not. Wasn’t part of the path in life I chose. But I guess this is the whole BS routine where if you weren’t in the military that means you are a lesser human being. Got it.
Again, this is about the draft. Try to keep on-topic.
” Why are you blaming women for your situation, your decisions?”
Who the hell knows what you are getting at there. Bit I suppose you thought it was a cute thing to add. Very feminine of you.
So, to sum it up:
- Women should be drafted because you don’t think motherhood is important anymore and
- You avoided military service for yourself because “it wasn’t in your plan/had better things to do”.
Sounds like you’re the Precious Dumpling! You want women to fill in for you in the manhood business.. Sorry, chum, real men serve in war. Spineless parasites should just fade into the background and pay their taxes.
The average mother, single or married has done much more for her country than you have - or ever will.
But - you did save your skin. Congratulations.
No, let me sum it up for the 1000000000000000th time.
Women ought not have the ability to have the vote to elect a government that can, using the draft, to send men off to war and potentially death, while they have ZERO expectations to perform any national service.
Either have the vote, and the expectation to sign-up to CONTRIBUTE if called upon, or stay out of the electoral process.
Is that something you agree with or not??
You think popping out a kid and being a soccer mom is national service. That is bulls*it. That is pure simpage of the worse p*ssy-whip kind.
You are a pathetic women worshiping wuss whose balls occupies the bottom of females purses. You refuse to answer my original point even after another person wanted to know as well. You can only answer by calling people “perverts” and going in tangents. Pure coward stuff.
Still haven’t answered my question- why should you be able to vote? You didn’t serve and you’re allegedly a man.
Since you can’t post without reference to some part of male or female anatomy, my judgement that you’re just a slimy, draft-dodging pervert stands.
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