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What kind of nation drafts women and sends them to war?
US Defense Watch ^ | May 2, 2016 | Ray Starmann

Posted on 05/02/2016 9:02:11 PM PDT by pboyington

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To: VanDeKoik; ohioman

At least I have a wife - you probably never will. A grown man knows that women are wonderful people. They are different in outlook and patterns of thinking but they provide balance and conscience to an otherwise brutal world.

Your very strange and malformed attitudes limit you and as long as you have them, they will prevent you from having a normal life. Your statements so far imply that you are so far out of balance that you are probably a risk for violence.

You need medical help.


81 posted on 05/03/2016 12:57:39 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Yeah, ok.

Now are you going to answer my question this year?

Maybe you can ask your wife. One of you must wear the pants and can pull it off.


82 posted on 05/03/2016 1:03:32 PM PDT by VanDeKoik (Viral v)
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To: Chainmail

Please make it clear to any outsiders that your words are directed at VanDeKoik. I certainly would not want to be strapped with his twisted logic. :)


83 posted on 05/03/2016 1:51:49 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Good point - sorry; you’re the good, normal person in this discussion.

VanDePervert is the nutcase we’re dealing with. First time I’ be ever run into somebody that deranged.


84 posted on 05/03/2016 2:04:53 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: pboyington

A nation that is circling the drain.


85 posted on 05/03/2016 2:05:54 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Chainmail

I honestly can’t think of a single job (outside of birthing a baby) that I would assume women do better than men; not that men automatically do them better, but I wouldn’t concede women do them any better either. Whether teaching, cooking, lawyers, accountants, doctors - I don’t assume women do any of them better (and the market seems to agree).


86 posted on 05/03/2016 2:22:47 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: kearnyirish2

I don’t agree. Women are generally better at slow, deliberative processes and are often exceptional managers and planners. Women tend to be great at framing concepts and developing them. Women provide the stability and perspective to organizations and that’s why well-educated women are highly sought after.

Women should not be in combat units because men are the killers in this world and they don’t need the distraction of attraction and competition during war. Women, with very few exceptions, are not mentally configured for organized murder. We are.


87 posted on 05/03/2016 2:47:56 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

No problem.


88 posted on 05/03/2016 3:19:03 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: ohioman

Really sorry I didn’t make it plainer, earlier.

As it was, every discussion I had with that guy made me feel disgusted. Really a waste of effort arguing with anyone that far gone.


89 posted on 05/03/2016 3:36:59 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail; VanDeKoik
"Like why the hell should a female have the rewards and none of the responsibilities?"

Well, congratulations - we have another gutless twit advocating women for the draft. Pretty clear you never served in combat or you would have figured out how dumb an idea that is. More proof that the men of this nation have swung to the pansy side of life.

Chainmail: Would you please answer VanDeKoik's question? How is it fair to allow women the vote, even though they can't be forced to risk life and limb in the defense of their country? How is it fair to allow a privileged group to participate in making life-and-death decisions when they, themselves, have no "skin in the game?"

Just asserting that it is "dumb" is no argument.

Regards,

90 posted on 05/03/2016 9:26:30 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: alexander_busek; VanDeKoik

Ah so, the pervert has a running partner!
1. If serving in combat was the qualifyer for voting, they’re would me me and a couple of others voting and the rest of you would have to stay home.
2. Women are not suited for infantry combat.nputting them in a frontline combat unit would cripple that unit.
So, how long have you two been “married”?


91 posted on 05/04/2016 4:29:38 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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“1. If serving in combat was the qualifyer for voting”

We are talking about being subjected to the draft for some sort of national service, which you are unable for some odd reason to follow.

“Women are not suited for infantry combat”

Who said put them there? It’s national service that you have to drop everything you are doing to perform. There are plenty of things they can do to free up more men for combat.

The question is why the hell are you completely ok with women being able to have the privilege of voting for a government that can send men off to combat and maybe die, but they have ZERO requirement to perform national service of ANY type?

No I don’t care if you consider them fragile little dumplings. If they are that daintily constructed then they ought not be involved in something serious as politics and war.

You refuse to answer this and instead continuously try to insult as a sad attempt at dodging.

Calling people pervert only makes you sound like a damn old retard.


92 posted on 05/04/2016 4:42:17 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Viral v)
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And you continue to sound like a virulent and seriously unbalanced misogynist. Apparently you refuse to consider the sine qua non of young women between the ages of 18 and 30-something: most are mothers. Their primary duty to themselves and their communities is to raise their children. Drafting women of that bracket is idiocy and runs counter to nature. Raising good, healthy children is critical to society and anything else is the path to extinction. Those Moms earn the right to vote for vital service to the future of our country.

If you were normal and your brain was unskewed, you’d have figured that out all by yourself and we could have saved an awful lot of wasted time.


93 posted on 05/04/2016 5:34:51 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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“And you continue to sound like a virulent and seriously unbalanced misogynist”

Thanks. That’s the goofy language I hear from feminists I debate. Do I by any chance suffer from “toxic masculinity” too?

“Apparently you refuse to consider the sine qua non of young women between the ages of 18 and 30-something: most are mothers. Their primary duty to themselves and their communities is to raise their children.”

And apparently you live in a la la land where the inconvenient fact that birthrates have tanked, few people are getting married, more kids born are the result of sex between people barely in a relationship, and millions of kids are dismembered and chucked into medical waste bags.

All by those special little dumplings you think are still like women from 1916 for some reason.

Not to mention that most people in college today are females. Most unattached, and certainly not mothers.

So these golden girls have time and next to no responsibilities and are free to serve their nation in some way like the guy that you couldn’t care less if he has something productive going on for himself.


94 posted on 05/04/2016 6:05:22 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Viral v)
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To: VanDeKoik

Unfortunately, you continue to display no real-world knowledge of women. The majority of young women are mothers and doing a fine job of it - better, in fact than previous generations. I have first-hand knowledge, since I have two kids my wife and I run to school and Tae Kwon Do every day and I am surrounded by the hard working and successful mothers of my community. They are guiding the future.

As for you, why didn’t you serve your country in uniform? Why are you blaming women for your situation, your decisions?

Men become men by realizing who they are and developing their strengths through adversity, not by blaming others.


95 posted on 05/04/2016 6:21:09 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: pboyington
What kind of nation drafts women and sends them to war?

The United States doesn't draft anybody, and never will.

"Registering" women for a nonexistent draft is the LAST step, not the first, in the feminization of national defense.

And what this is intended to do is to make a return to conscription impossible.

There is zero chance - ZERO - that any unwilling female will ever serve in the armed forces in any capacity.

All this discussion is just right-wing virtue signalling.

96 posted on 05/04/2016 6:32:45 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Cruz never could have outfought Trump. I never knew, until this day, that it was Romney all along.)
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“The majority of young women are mothers and doing a fine job of it - better, in fact than previous generations”

An almost majority of children are born to single mothers. So no, it isnt a “good job”. It’s a generation of latchkey kids...not counting the millions of ones that are aborted. I see you ignored that too.

And what about the other examples I gave of the females with no kids? Again for you vagina = pass.

Go out and spend your day in women’s studies classes, shopping at the mall, and having first world issues, guys like this got your back.

And I find it hilarious you sit there and slobber over women....but any guy that is hard working and successful can go screw off? He’s good for national service, kids or not, business or not, responsibilities or not.

“As for you, why didn’t you serve your country in uniform?”

Same reason a lot of people have not. Wasn’t part of the path in life I chose. But I guess this is the whole BS routine where if you weren’t in the military that means you are a lesser human being. Got it.

Again, this is about the draft. Try to keep on-topic.

” Why are you blaming women for your situation, your decisions?”

Who the hell knows what you are getting at there. Bit I suppose you thought it was a cute thing to add. Very feminine of you.


97 posted on 05/04/2016 6:45:40 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Viral v)
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To: VanDeKoik

So, to sum it up:

- Women should be drafted because you don’t think motherhood is important anymore and
- You avoided military service for yourself because “it wasn’t in your plan/had better things to do”.

Sounds like you’re the Precious Dumpling! You want women to fill in for you in the manhood business.. Sorry, chum, real men serve in war. Spineless parasites should just fade into the background and pay their taxes.

The average mother, single or married has done much more for her country than you have - or ever will.

But - you did save your skin. Congratulations.


98 posted on 05/04/2016 7:23:11 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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No, let me sum it up for the 1000000000000000th time.

Women ought not have the ability to have the vote to elect a government that can, using the draft, to send men off to war and potentially death, while they have ZERO expectations to perform any national service.

Either have the vote, and the expectation to sign-up to CONTRIBUTE if called upon, or stay out of the electoral process.

Is that something you agree with or not??

You think popping out a kid and being a soccer mom is national service. That is bulls*it. That is pure simpage of the worse p*ssy-whip kind.

You are a pathetic women worshiping wuss whose balls occupies the bottom of females purses. You refuse to answer my original point even after another person wanted to know as well. You can only answer by calling people “perverts” and going in tangents. Pure coward stuff.


99 posted on 05/04/2016 7:37:46 AM PDT by VanDeKoik (Viral v)
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To: VanDeKoik

Still haven’t answered my question- why should you be able to vote? You didn’t serve and you’re allegedly a man.

Since you can’t post without reference to some part of male or female anatomy, my judgement that you’re just a slimy, draft-dodging pervert stands.


100 posted on 05/04/2016 12:12:32 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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