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The Baker Act, America's communist Gulag
Mainestategop ^ | Brian Ball

Posted on 05/16/2016 10:32:41 AM PDT by mainestategop



The Baker act, also known as the Florida Mental Health Act of 1971, Florida Statute 394.451-394.47891 or commonly known as the Baker Act. A draconian and unjust law that allows the involuntary institutionalization and examination of an individual for any reason at all.

The Baker Act allows for involuntary examination (what some call emergency or involuntary commitment). It can be initiated by judges, law enforcement officials, physicians, or mental health professionals. There must be evidence that the person possibly has a mental illness or is a harm to self, harm to others or self neglectful. Truthfully these standards are broad and open to interpretation. Government employees, abusive relatives, crooked cops, teachers, and doctors have used it to deprive the innocent of their liberty.

Examinations and evaluations may last up to 72 hours. Baker acting occurs in over 100 Florida Department of Children and Families-designated receiving facilities statewide. There are many possible outcomes following examination of the patient, this includes the release of the individual to the community (or other community placement), a petition for involuntary inpatient placement, involuntary outpatient commitment, or voluntary treatment (if the person is competent to consent to voluntary treatment and consents to voluntary treatment).



The involuntary outpatient placement language in the Baker Act took effect as part of the Baker Act reform in 2005.

The act was named for a Florida state representative from Miami, Maxine Baker, who is a supporter of communism and large government socialism and served as chair of a House Committee on Mental Health. Baker was the sponsor of this bill that has robbed many innocents of their liberty, dignity and property.

The Baker act is a favorite tool of the corrupt such as guardian appellate, abusive relatives, corrupt politicians and big business. Thanks to the Baker act, many innocent people such as Stodie Coleman and others have been robbed of their basic living and their liberty all thanks to the left.

The Baker act is also a favorite tool of social security which uses it to kill off poor people and their right to own property. The word of one government employee or one relative is all it takes to lock up Grandma and confiscate her entire estate. From there on then its either skid row, a nursing home, or the state hospital in Chattahoochee.

Not just the elderly suffer but even anyone can suffer. Have a disability? do people think you have a disability? POOF! Gone! No more money, no more rights. But what if you don't have a disability? Well they'll just make one up on the spot! POOF! REMEMBER! GOVERNMENT AND GOVERNMENT LICENSED PROFESSIONALS ARE ALWAYS RIGHT!!!!!

Before there was the NDAA, before the patriot act, there was the Baker act. This evil act is the antithesis to the constitution that must be challenged by Florida and godly Americans.


TOPICS: Government
KEYWORDS: bakeract; commitment; disability; florida; gulag; involuntary; mentalillness
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1 posted on 05/16/2016 10:32:41 AM PDT by mainestategop
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To: mainestategop

Florida would be a bad place to visit for global warming skeptics.


2 posted on 05/16/2016 10:37:07 AM PDT by MeganC (The Republic of The United States of America: 7/4/1776 to 6/26/2015 R.I.P.)
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To: mainestategop

-—The involuntary outpatient placement language in the Baker Act took effect as part of the Baker Act reform in 2005.-—

Since 2005, eh?

Why didn’t Rush or Sean or Mark blanket the airwaves at that time about this? This the first I’ve heard of it.

Mmmm...who was Governor at the time? Who was POTUS?


3 posted on 05/16/2016 10:41:59 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: mainestategop

Ahhh and the liberals LOVE to say “Well, Reagan closed all the mental institutions.”

Which is a lie by the way but facts don’t stop liberals.


4 posted on 05/16/2016 10:44:34 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: Organic Panic

Where can I find info on this? My friend is another one who makes that same claim about Reagan.


5 posted on 05/16/2016 10:48:11 AM PDT by Jean2 (ox)
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To: Organic Panic

Where can I find info on this? My friend is another one who makes that same claim about Reagan.


6 posted on 05/16/2016 10:49:19 AM PDT by Jean2 (ox)
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To: mainestategop

I for one however, am not a fan of the modern concept of letting the psychos wander freely. How do we lock them up without empowering someone to evaluate them for 72 hours?


7 posted on 05/16/2016 10:54:23 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: Jean2

I hear that one too about Reagan.


8 posted on 05/16/2016 10:55:04 AM PDT by DesertRhino ("I want those feeble minded asses overthrown,,,)
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To: mainestategop

I’m a resident of Florida and a certified Behavior Analyst with some experience working in the State’s Mental Health Facilities. I am not disagreeing that there “could” be a “remote” chances for abuse but a “victim” would have to face review by a judge, law enforcement, and their families in order to be sent to a facility for evaluation.

Consider the alternatives... Look at all the mass shootings over the past view years by person’s obviously mental impaired whose concerned families were met by legal roadblocks while trying to get them institutionalized. The Baker act is a quick way of getting a disturbed person, who presents a danger to themselves or others, off the street.

Potentially violent mentally disturbed people are not only a threat to everybody but they are also a threat to our right to bear arms considering the liberal response to mass-shootings by deranged people.


9 posted on 05/16/2016 11:06:54 AM PDT by MichaelRDanger
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To: Organic Panic
The institutions were mostly closed in the sixties because of budget constraints. They were too crowded, too many people were being shucked into them for merely being "eccentric" or politically correct.

Reagan didn't close all of them, just the ones that were oppressive like one we had up in Waterville. I don't remember what it was but Oklahoma has been doing de-institutionalization since the late fifties and they did it right. They made sure that all the patients had a place to go whereas in California, they were left to their own devices and they either walked out of their community placement and went on the streets or they were just given a bus fare to LA or SF or some other place and forgotten about.

Today, mental hospitals and institutions are mainly used to dump health normal people who oppose the government while crazies, psychos and violent people are free to roam our streets and make trouble.

matter of fact I saw one today in Portsmouth, all drunk lit up smelling of urine and booze, and I thought of my friend who was locked up in Acadia hospital in Bangor and stripped of his rights and his dignity as well as his life savings just because he couldn't find work in Maine and just because he opposed the democrats.

Hence the baker act.

10 posted on 05/16/2016 11:11:02 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: MichaelRDanger

I agree 100%. There are people who should be contained, but we can’t do that because it violates their rights.

I have personally seen cases like the one you described, where someone SHOULD be committed, but isn’t, due to the legal roadblocks.

What should be done in those cases is obvious to everyone, but everyone shrugs their shoulders and says their hands are tied.


11 posted on 05/16/2016 11:12:37 AM PDT by rlmorel ("Irrational violence against muslims" is a myth, but "Irrational violence against non-muslims" isn't)
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To: MichaelRDanger
I am not disagreeing that there “could” be a “remote” chances for abuse but a “victim” would have to face review by a judge, law enforcement, and their families in order to be sent to a facility for evaluation.

It happened to a friend of mine in Maine. His abusive parents, (liberals, the father a humanist, the mother a communist) The Portland Maine Police department, (made up of commies or fascists or a combination of both) all said he was nuts for opposing the Democrats and for being abused as a child (and don't get me started on the legal system in Penobscot and Cumberland county.) And all declared that not only was it his fault he couldn't find work in a no job poverty state like Maine, not only is he deranged and psychotic for opposing the government but it was his fault for being abused. He had everything taken away from him and tossed on the streets.

Meanwhile, Portland, Boston, New York, Providence, Worcester, even Bangor teems with mentally ill homeless who wander the streets aimless, drunk and cause trouble. But do these people care? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO... They go after instead the health normal productive conservative libertarians and force them on toxic poisonous meds, ban them from traveling outside the state or the region, ban them from working and from owning money or managing money. Why? Just because they're against the government.

12 posted on 05/16/2016 11:17:51 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: rlmorel
Don't believe it. If they want to they can have you and everyone on this forum locked up in an institution just for being a member of FR.

They wont do it because having addicts and psychos drunk on the street sways public opinion to demand more and more government and give up more and more freedoms. Plus the state workers get paid more of our money by there being problems in society like this.

13 posted on 05/16/2016 11:20:45 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: DesertRhino; Jean2
I do not believe Reagan had a hand in it, but rather a series of court decisions before and during his term. Prior to the mid 70's, people with problems were often made to "go away" by their families or the justice system. States maintained institutions to house mentally deficient and the morally perverted, with little or no due process. I believe such decisions have led to many of our social problems we face today, but due process is a good thing. Apology for my lack of HTML ability.

http://disabilityjustice.org/halderman-v-pennhurst-state-school-hospital/

14 posted on 05/16/2016 11:21:06 AM PDT by buckalfa (I am feeling much better now.)
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To: mainestategop; Organic Panic

The de-institutionalization drive began around 1973 and has enriched our homeless population ever since.

It’s why we have crazy people pushing their shopping cart/homes down the street and living on the sidewalk.


15 posted on 05/16/2016 11:22:02 AM PDT by Pelham (Trump/Tsoukalos 2016 - vote the great hair ticket)
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To: Pelham

And the election of BHO in 08 really made it even more enriched.


16 posted on 05/16/2016 11:41:01 AM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: mainestategop

The main problem with the Baker Act is that you need to release the deviant after just 72 hours.


17 posted on 05/16/2016 11:57:19 AM PDT by Brilliant
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To: mainestategop
Love how this says the Cops are crooked. I never made a dime taking a person to Mental Health for help.

And always wished that another Officer would get the call. Of course they were all thinking the same thing. So I don't know which one was the crooked one /s

Ed

18 posted on 05/16/2016 12:08:16 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: husky ed
It depends on the community. In New York and California for instance, the vast majority of cops are communist. They hate guns, they hate free speech, they hate it when they're recorded by law abiding patriots like yours truly breaking their own laws and violating the constitution.

Our founding fathers never intended for us to depend on police officers. That's one reason they had the 2nd amendment. Back in the day police were rarely necessary except in large crowded cities.

19 posted on 05/16/2016 12:14:36 PM PDT by mainestategop (DonÂ’t Let Freedom Slip Away! After America , There is No Place to Go)
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To: MeganC

You’ve got that right.
I don’t think the no-tax incentive is enough to offset the likelihood of an anti-social injustice warrior deciding to call the white coats on one because one publicly dared not to be a communist.


20 posted on 05/16/2016 12:53:51 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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