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Thanks for reminding me - wow, you have a fantastic brain and memory. I had forgotten about that. I wonder when HI removed the dates and certificate numbers from their birth index. Amazing how much the HI Dept of Health did just to cover up the criminal identity fraud.

I’m not trying to say what they DID, what I am saying is it sure LOOKS that way.
The total number of births in that period could not be altered. They could not just drop one, as if it never happened. But covering one up because it had a name that just wouldn’t look right on an index, by some weird acromyn that no one understands, leaves the total unchanged.

https://www.allacronyms.com/MAE

No use accusing Hawaii DOH of anything that happened in 1961, the same people would hardly be there so many years later. Certainly the anomaly would have come to light in recent times, and printing out an index would have made it clear that some skulduggery took place on August 8, 1961, when both a dead child's death announcement appeared and the lodgement of a birth for zero was presented on the same day. But what could they do about that when the kerfuffle started?

They took the easy way out. Removed one. Called it DUPLICATE MAE ERROR. But of course it's still there under the name of OBADO. They didn't reduce the birth total by one, only the NAME disappeared.

The dead child then had a BC issued two weeks later, WHEN HER DEATH CERTIFICATE WAS AMENDED.

zero bc number = 10641

died VS number = 11080

Same date, August 4, 1961. Difference = 439.

Over and out. No one is interested, it's all too complicated. Bye.