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I'm Voting for Hillary But I Hate Her
June 27, 2016

Posted on 06/27/2016 10:47:22 AM PDT by Talisker

Edited on 06/27/2016 11:20:01 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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To: Talisker

i was sure in 2008 that this country would not elect a man with an obvious arab muslim name over a war hero (i know, i use the term loosely) and Sarah Palin (a real conservative and smoking hot to boot!).

i was wrong.

i was sure in 2012 that this country would not repeat the mistake of 2008 after seeing what an incompetent and america-hating boob the man with the arab muslim name was. running against him, we had an actual honest-to-goodness businessman who literally made a name for himself turning around struggling companies. if ever america needed a man like that, surely it was in 2012.

i was wrong.

in 2016, i’ve learned my lesson. in fact, it’s an old lesson about breads & circuses. let’s wait and see what happens, but i have my concerns and anxiety about the outcome.


41 posted on 06/27/2016 11:22:39 AM PDT by TangibleDisgust ("To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize." - Voltaire)
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To: Ketill Frostbeard

“Kukri”: It sounds like
an Eastern Euro pastry
But don’t put in mouth!


42 posted on 06/27/2016 11:22:51 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Talisker
Here is a better one...

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43 posted on 06/27/2016 11:23:40 AM PDT by timestax (American Media = Domestic Enemy)
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To: Lorianne
Do not talk politics with certain people. They are irrational and completely unhinged.

Including a double supersized buttload of so-called evangelical ministers.

44 posted on 06/27/2016 11:25:05 AM PDT by jimbug
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To: FourtySeven

A simplistic haiku in response top your valid, cogent post:

Dehumanizing
and Destructive are two planks
In leftist platform


45 posted on 06/27/2016 11:25:52 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Talisker
Someting like 60 PERCENT don't vote for exactly those reasons.

About 60 percent don't vote. But, I don't think all of them fit in the "don't like the choices" group.

I'll speculate on of some of the larger subsets of the non-voters, in no particular order:

I'm sure that you could come up with more categories.

46 posted on 06/27/2016 11:26:47 AM PDT by justlurking
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To: T-Bone Texan

Swords in my pockets
One right, one left, protecting
One in the middle ;)


47 posted on 06/27/2016 11:27:15 AM PDT by Ketill Frostbeard ("Socialism is the Sword of Islam, and Islam is Satan clothed in flesh.")
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To: Talisker

That article is way too long for me to get through. I could vote for Hillary, for LEAVENWORTH.


48 posted on 06/27/2016 11:31:42 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Talisker

Verbally assaulted? Meanwhile, Trump supporters are getting physically assaulted.


49 posted on 06/27/2016 11:33:23 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: LesbianThespianGymnasticMidget

A haiku of great importance (in Milpitas):

Hill grabs Huma’s head
“Down there: do that thing”
Technically date rape!

So yeah, this has nothing to do with your great haiku. Sorry; I suck.


50 posted on 06/27/2016 11:35:38 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Talisker

Bump because this is really GOOD!


51 posted on 06/27/2016 11:36:55 AM PDT by stayathomemom ( Read Shadow Men and The Progressive Virus by Dr. Anthony Napoleon)
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To: SaveFerris
"Pretty much like talking to any Obama supporter the first 5-6 years. They truly wanted to believe in their “messiah”

The difference is they didn't want to know anything about Obama. They flat out refused to listen. With what they did know about Obama. Which was Obama was black therefore a great pick for president(which is pure and simple racism.) Hillary they already know.

Obama they loved. Hillary they hate but the fear drives them to vote.

Apathy will set in for many.

52 posted on 06/27/2016 11:38:30 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Ketill Frostbeard

Word etymology haiku:

“Fricken”: Old German
Arcane verb meaning “to stab”
Your haiku spurred that!


53 posted on 06/27/2016 11:38:52 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Vince Ferrer
A week or two ago Scott Adams wrote a blog post about changing the minds of Hillary supporters. While you probably could not have stopped her from supporting Hillary, those techniques may work in calming someone down. Mostly they rely not on stating facts, but asking questions they will not have asked themselves. They are victims of selection bias.

I have some training and experience in psychological intervention and I did try some things, such as questioning the framing of the issues in a nonthreatening manner, suggesting the possibility of alternative interpretations, and empathizing with her frustration and anger. But there's a difference between dealing with someone who is asleep, versus someone who is pretending to be asleep.

What most struck me is that her general understanding and intelligence did not rise to the level of creating and pursuing the sophistication of psychological tactics she was unleashing on me. So her mindset was one of "obeying orders" or "carrying out a mission" - not, in fact, genuinely backing her words with personal meaning.

And yet, again, she "believes" in her mission, so she was able to insert that belief into her tactics. But, again, this kind of psychological construction was beyond her ability to compose herself. Her value is in her "loyalty" to the cause, and her fear of being abandoned - not her intelligence. Therefore, she was trained.

But she was not trained to deliver it in such a panicked fashion, and that's what got me thinking. Because someone like her will only be afraid if they sense that their superiors are afraid - they're like rats, who are the first to know if the ship is taking on water. And every sailor knows that if the officers are blandly telling them everything is fine, but the rats are leaping overboard, that they're in a lot of trouble.

Similiarly, she was emotionally expressing the extreme fear of her handlers - their desperation, if you will, and their probable abuse of people like her who are being blamed for the limited Hillary support. Typically, totalitarians blame any problems on "lack of loyalty." Their people "aren't working hard enough" and so they are continually punished. Can there really be any doubt, whatsoever, that Hillary's machine works exactly like this? And so IMO, her panic comes from the fact that her handlers know the REAL polls, the ones NOT released to the public.

54 posted on 06/27/2016 11:39:15 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Steve Van Doorn

A haiku, for you:

“Vote for me, I’m black!”
He said to dullard masses
Who did, cuz he black


55 posted on 06/27/2016 11:41:39 AM PDT by T-Bone Texan (Don't be a lone wolf. Form up small leaderlesss cells ASAP !)
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To: Talisker
Bob Hope on Zombies and Democrats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4a6YdNmK77k
56 posted on 06/27/2016 11:43:59 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: Steve Van Doorn

Dunno, somebody I know is in the tank for Clinton, I think. Never wanted to hear anything about her that wasn’t MSM-approved.


57 posted on 06/27/2016 11:45:52 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Be a blessing to a stranger today for some have entertained angels unaware)
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To: Talisker

My liberal mom seemed almost desperate when she asked me and my brother for only one thing on her 7th birthday. Not to vote for Hillary buy just don’t vote for Trump. It was panic.


58 posted on 06/27/2016 11:48:07 AM PDT by pangaea6
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To: T-Bone Texan
"A haiku, for you"

I never heard the term used in such a way. I assume you mean. From the Japanese word. Meaning to artfully cut words to show something very nice.

I like that term. haiku

59 posted on 06/27/2016 11:50:18 AM PDT by Steve Van Doorn (*in my best Eric Cartman voice* 'I love you, guys')
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To: cyclotic

My son, a good conservative, and his independent/liberal girlfriend sometimes debate politics. My son uses facts and rationale, she emotion. She gets angry with him because, as she told him, he is right and she doesn’t like it.


60 posted on 06/27/2016 11:52:53 AM PDT by Hulka
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