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Gun Review: J67 Bullpup Smooth Is Fast
AShooting Journal ^ | 7/1/2016 | Oleg Volk

Posted on 07/01/2016 8:10:57 AM PDT by w1n1

Dean Van Marel of Jard, Inc. designed the J67 bullpup to be simple and inexpensive. Based loosely on Sten and Sterling submachinegun features, this odd-looking bullpup folded from aluminum sheets is quite different in actual use. At 7 pounds, it hearkens back to the age when pistol-caliber guns were sometimes front-line infantry weapons.

Unlike Sten and Sterling, J67 ejects down behind the magazine and the controls are ambidextrous. The safety lever is modeled on M1 Garand, and Marel chose Glock magazines, common and available in various calibers, as the standard. In my experience, the Glock magazines worked perfectly, but aftermarket magazines wouldn’t lock into the magazine well at first.

The mag-release lever has to be manually pushed forward the first time on each new aftermarket magazines, such as those from ETS Group and Magpul, but then the mags worked fine. Designed with a mag catch on both sides of the well, the J67 works only with Gen4-compliant magazines.

THE ACTION is straight blowback, but delivers less recoil than most .22 rifles. The trick is a relatively heavy – 18.8 ounce – bolt and substantial over travel past the magazine on each cycle. The same layout gives Keltec RDB and Ultimax 100 their low recoil, as well. Read the rest of Jard J67 Bullpup review here.


TOPICS: Hobbies; Outdoors
KEYWORDS: banglist; bullpup; guns; j67

1 posted on 07/01/2016 8:10:58 AM PDT by w1n1
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To: w1n1

Interesting design.

L


2 posted on 07/01/2016 8:16:57 AM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Lurker
I don't think it's 900 bucks worth of interesting.Chambered in 9mm it's a plinker,not a serious self defense gun.
3 posted on 07/01/2016 8:19:57 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Never be more than two steps away from your weapon.)
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To: w1n1

Cool


4 posted on 07/01/2016 8:21:02 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY!)
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To: Farmer Dean

It fills a niche though, for people,who want a rifle and pistol that use same mags and ammo. Rifle barrel 9mm will hsve more energy and distance than pistol barrel.


5 posted on 07/01/2016 8:24:56 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Lurker

Hmmm. Like to see that in .45


6 posted on 07/01/2016 8:27:24 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Objects in history may be closer than they appear")
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To: Noumenon

Or 10mm


7 posted on 07/01/2016 8:27:53 AM PDT by Noumenon ("Objects in history may be closer than they appear")
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To: Secret Agent Man

I’ve got a Beretta CX4 and 92 that share mags.The longer barrel doesn’t help velocity that much since the powders used are burnt in about 6 inches of bullet travel.These pistol caliber carbines are fun plinkers but lack the energy to be effective on “larger” animals.


8 posted on 07/01/2016 8:32:14 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Never be more than two steps away from your weapon.)
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To: w1n1

Interesting, but a cheaper AR-10 would be similar in price.


9 posted on 07/01/2016 8:40:51 AM PDT by farming pharmer (www.sterlingheightsreport.com)
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To: w1n1

For Info on Ballistics from various barrel lengths see:

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/


10 posted on 07/01/2016 8:41:09 AM PDT by ExSES (the "bottom-line")
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To: w1n1

That’s a nice AR-15!


11 posted on 07/01/2016 8:58:37 AM PDT by moovova
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To: moovova

Sorry...forgot the sarcasm tag.


12 posted on 07/01/2016 9:00:20 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Farmer Dean

I disagree with your “not a serious ... “ comment. In most of the infrequent events wherein one has to actually draw a weapon, the choice of caliber is of no importance. A perp holding anything other than his own gun will find that leaving the scene is far more interesting than waiting around to see how big a hole your weapon will make in him.

Most self defense scenarios are resolved in seconds. Having your weapon available rather than having it in your lock-box at home is far more relevant than the size of the bullet.

Been there ... done that. No shots fired but it was interesting to see how fast a guy can run with his pants down around the hips.


13 posted on 07/01/2016 9:25:25 AM PDT by ByteMercenary (Healthcare Insurance is *NOT* a Constitutional right.)
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To: w1n1
Dean Van Marel of Jard, Inc. designed the J67 bullpup to be simple and inexpensive.

Failure on the inexpensive part.

14 posted on 07/01/2016 10:03:26 AM PDT by BipolarBob (I'm so open minded that you should only think like me.)
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To: Farmer Dean

Compact, fast handling, big magazines, and coming out of a 16” barrel a Cor-Bon 115 graing JHP +P has more muzzle energy than a 357 from a 4” barrel (which I think anyone would consider enough energy to be a serious self-defense gun).

Seems great to me for inside use/short range kind of things. 700 lb-ft of energy is nothing to sneeze at!


15 posted on 07/01/2016 10:13:57 AM PDT by Shanghai Dan
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To: ByteMercenary

That’s why I have an extended mag 12 gauge in the bedroom.
8 shots of OO buck should do the trick.If I have to leave the house to investigate a possible problem,I have an M16A1 or suppressed MP5 to take with me.
But to me a 9mm is pretty far down the food chain,so to speak.The subgun is a little different since 6-8 torso hits is enough.


16 posted on 07/01/2016 10:44:44 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (Never be more than two steps away from your weapon.)
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To: Shanghai Dan

Not much bigger or more expensive than a 9mm AR SBR and no tax stamp BS. Still the Keltec Sub 2000 is half the price and similar size. Bull pups also suck for left handed shooters. But it is good to see new designs and a 9mm out of a 16” barrel is easy on the wallet and within a 100 yards against non armored targets is plenty capable.


17 posted on 07/01/2016 7:51:42 PM PDT by LibTeeth
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To: Farmer Dean

“I don’t think it’s 900 bucks worth of interesting.Chambered in 9mm it’s a plinker,not a serious self defense gun.”

$900. Seems like they missed the design goal several times over.

I think of “inexpensive” as under $300.


18 posted on 07/02/2016 2:53:49 PM PDT by marktwain
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To: Farmer Dean

As regards the MP5, I thought CIII weapons were specifically disallowed for self-defense?

Ed


19 posted on 07/02/2016 3:36:41 PM PDT by Sir_Ed
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To: Sir_Ed

Not so.


20 posted on 07/02/2016 3:52:13 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (Never be more than two steps away from your weapon.)
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