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To: Seizethecarp

why is medicine and science so backward thinking? It seems it’s just a business making a buck and truly many times not focused on individual care for each person and their unique life and circumstances. (Like years ago when lobotomies were thought to be helpful) It’s scary how unthought out some of our modern medical approaches still are.

My own mom is late 70’s and currently diagnosed with Polymyalgia rheumatica and a liver tumor and jaundice, yet they are prescribing 8 weeks of PT 3 times a week! insane, she can barley get to the bathroom and back in her hospital room and has been on/off running a fever for more than a week let alone consider PT right now, and they have yet to remove her tumor, so why push PT? And this all at a supposed great Hospital.

My lowly education and 20+ yrs of helping people with similar issues as this article talks of tells me they need to loosen joints and stuck fascia and muscles, to put it simply they need to help their body relax and open up the restricted areas, reduce inflammation (thru nutrition, hydration, decreasing physical tension and mental stresser sorts of things) and then slowly address exercise (making the muscles work more than routine daily stuff) to strengthen or build more muscle, increase circulation and endorphins etc. promoting healing.

Also as a Christian I realize all body and thought issues have a spiritual root - which only God can truly help us to change or let go of, but thank God for folks who can also speak encouragement or walk a step or two with us along the way!


5 posted on 08/20/2016 10:46:42 PM PDT by b4me (Idolatry is rampant in thoughts and actions. Choose whom you will serve....)
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To: b4me

Many liver disorders are actually caused by a person taking so much medicine that they deplete the enzymes necessary for detoxing the body which also create the half life in medicines.

Specifically the Cytochrome P450 group of enzymes. Six of these enzymes metabolize 90 percent of drugs, with the two most significant enzymes being CYP3A4 and CYP2D6.

I took my 95 year old mother from the nursing home where she could not even roll over in bed, and within 3 weeks of detox in my home had her up and walking again. Atfer detoxing her for 6 months, I took her to a DR who was the Chair of Geriatric Medicine at a big med school and he ran blood tests. Funny thing.. the kidney disease she had for over 40 years was completely gone!!!

This is also why you should not drink grapefruit juice as it depletes the same enzymes.


8 posted on 08/21/2016 12:22:28 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: b4me

“why is medicine and science so backward thinking? “

I agree. I recently went to a symposium at one of the top neuroscience research universities in the USA which in cooperation with their medical school faculty put on a program on the “Neuroscience of Psychotherapy.”

I watched as a presenter used ego validation to heal a psychological issue in a man. (Clinical case video) I laughed at her technique and commented that I could send the patient to a prostitute and get the same result for a much lower cost and it would work better than her therapy. Ego validation allows a person to shift consciousness into the logical aspect of consciousness and feel better by escaping the emotional pain, but it is very temporary. It does not and never will heal an emotional wound. (No, I am not recommending prostitutes, but merely pointing out that while ego validation makes a person feel good, it does not heal the emotional wound creating problems in the person’s life.)


9 posted on 08/21/2016 12:33:32 AM PDT by tired&retired (Blessings)
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To: b4me

so why push PT?

My lowly education and 20+ yrs of helping people with similar issues as this article talks of tells me they need to loosen joints and stuck fascia and muscles, to put it simply they need to help their body relax and open up the restricted areas, reduce inflammation (thru nutrition, hydration, decreasing physical tension and mental stresser sorts of things) and then slowly address exercise (making the muscles work more than routine daily stuff) to strengthen or build more muscle, increase circulation and endorphins etc. promoting healing.
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I’ve heard docs refer to PT as “Whatever it is they do down there.”

PT is on the provider lists. It’s covered and part of the institutional ‘family’. Other modalities, (such as you describe) are not. Sometimes those modalities are included within the PT department, billed at hundreds of $/hour, limited # of times and under the direction of clinicians with little interest or acceptance of PT, itself, let alone its poor stepsisters.

Otherwise, those modalities are private, much, much more affordable, but out of pocket. Most PTs are fine with them, but they aren’t referrable.They will not be reimbursed. They are also most effective over a much longer time.

Like so much that’s frustrating, ineffective and plain wrong, it’s simply the culture and, usually, the culture wins.


23 posted on 08/21/2016 5:05:29 AM PDT by reformedliberal
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To: b4me

The latest medical definition of ME/CFS, which includes my direct experience, is one of intolerance of more than minimal daily exercise. I can do no more than 5 reps of pushups, situps, leglifts, backlifts, climbing 4 flights of stairs. I have used this routine to prevent muscle atrophy which I have followed for 15 years that I have had ME/CFS.

Orthostatic intolerance...inability to remain sitting or standing upright without loss of blood to the brain as long as a normal person (which I have) has been added as one of two criteria in this new government IOM report!

See:

http://www.webmd.com/chronic-fatigue-syndrome/news/20150210/new-name-new-criteria-for-chronic-fatigue-syndrome?page=2

...the new IOM report lays out new diagnostic criteria to help streamline the process. According to the new report, people suffering from chronic fatigue syndrome suffer three core symptoms:
•Impaired ability to engage in pre-illness levels of activities that persists for more than six months and is accompanied by often-profound fatigue.
•A worsening of these symptoms after any type of exertion, including physical or mental exercises or emotional stress.
•Sleep that does not alleviate fatigue.

To diagnose someone with chronic fatigue syndrome, a physician also must find the person is suffering from one of two additional problems:
•Impaired ability to think.
•The inability to remain upright, with symptoms that improve when lying down.


42 posted on 08/21/2016 7:55:07 AM PDT by Seizethecarp
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