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To: Persevero

These pre-crime fishing expeditions are completely arbitrary and nothing but a scam for revenue. Some people are barely walking at 0.03 while others can do heavy work all day at 0.20. Many illegal drugs are less impairing than average people who blow a 0.08. And many legal Rx drugs are WAY more impairing than someone blowing a 0.08. Also, we have no breathalyzer for the countless impairing Rx pills even though MILLIONS of people legally use them.

The 100% pure and fair “alternative” is to ONLY prosecute people for real crimes that actually harmed someone. NOT this “pre crime” or “potential crime” warrior nonsense whose mission is expandable to infinity.

IF you are driving wrecklessly and breaking rules, you get pulled over (none of this “checkpoint” BS). IF you kill someone and are found to be intoxicated, you go to jail. If you steal, you go to jail. If you burn down your neighbor’s house, you go to jail. We shouldn’t be creating a network of spies arresting people for things that “might” someday harm someone. With that thinking, there is no limit to expansion of the nanny/surveillance state.

Such thinking has led to such insanity as seizing cash indefinitely until YOU can prove it’s not drug money. It has led to the acceptance of no-knock warrants, SWAT teams everywhere and countless innocent people being killed.


173 posted on 09/09/2016 12:32:15 PM PDT by varyouga
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To: varyouga

I have a friend that is a functional alcoholic that told me he puts away 2 handles of ten high a week (that is close to a gallon of the cheapest whiskey)... If he admits to that, I am sure there are weeks that it is even more. I always wondered what his normal blood alcohol level is during the time he is not drinking and at work... He says one usually lasts him the work week and then drinks a second over the weekend... can only imagine a 4 day weekend week...

I could have been right there with him, Back in the day on our fishing trips, I drank a case to his 12 pack... I was about 20 years old and my room mates bet me (a keg) that I could not quit drinking for a month. During that month, I started smoking marijuana socially instead of drinking, was not my first time, but not often then. When my month was over, I had won, they bought the keg and the next morning I woke up saying this is stupid, I never felt this way from smoking pot and I am done getting drunk... after that did not really see a need to drink socially, if I did not want to be drunk, it certainly did not taste particularly good.

I argue that marijuana actually saved me from becoming and alcoholic... I was well on my way!


175 posted on 09/09/2016 1:01:56 PM PDT by AzNASCARfan
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To: varyouga

“Pre-Crime Fishing Expeditions” =

noticing a weaving car and pulling them over BEFORE they hit someone

noticing a passed out drunk in charge of a little kid and removing the kid BEFORE he is damaged by child neglect

noticing a man threatening to kill an official and arresting him BEFORE he does it

noticing a company letting rats climb all over their canned tomatoes and shutting them down BEFORE anyone gets the plague

noticing that a person has an unfenced swimming pool in the front yard and forcing them to fence it BEFORE some kid drowns

etc.

I am not promoting the idea of citizens being randomly pulled over and searched for pot, or any other thing. Nor having their homes invaded or searched.

But yes we do have preventative laws, of course we want them within reason, that is where the hard work and thinking and cooperation comes in. It is not easy but as I asked before what is the alternative? Much worse.


177 posted on 09/09/2016 1:53:13 PM PDT by Persevero (NUTS)
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