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To: SkyDancer
Fascism is a flavor of socialism, in the same way that Lutheranism and Mormonism are flavors of Christianity.

The state is inherently socialist, because it monopolizes and nationalizes the means of production of justice and security. By claiming the authority to tax--and by actually doing so--it proves that the state is the actual owner of the property being taxed, and of the labor of those taxed, and of the "means of production" used to earn the income that's taxed.  Only ownership would confer any right to exact rent or dividends.

33 posted on 09/25/2016 12:38:02 PM PDT by sourcery (Non Acquiescit: "I do not consent" (Latin))
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To: sourcery
The state is inherently socialist, because it monopolizes and nationalizes the means of production of justice and security. By claiming the authority to tax--and by actually doing so--it proves that the state is the actual owner of the property being taxed, and of the labor of those taxed, and of the "means of production" used to earn the income that's taxed. Only ownership would confer any right to exact rent or dividends.

Correct. Yet according to our constitution, that should be impossible here. And so, in the alternative, Americans should be extremely interested in exactly how this is legally justified here.

Buy incredibly, they're not.

49 posted on 09/25/2016 12:46:10 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: sourcery
Fascism is an authoritarian, nationalistic political ideology. On the other hand, socialism is an economic system in which the means of production are either owned by the state or owned commonly but cooperatively controlled. This is the main difference between the two terms.

The difference that arises at the core idea of fascism and socialism makes them two whole different ideologies. However, if you put that fact aside, you will see that both fascism and socialism are ideologies where strict rules are applied to the members of the society.

65 posted on 09/25/2016 12:55:03 PM PDT by SkyDancer ("They Say That Nobody's Perfect But Yet Here I Am")
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