105 years ago
105 years ago
Interesting. The 1911 and the M9 both have safety levers. If they go with one without it, it will be the first time in modern history.
Forget about the Glock 22 & 23. They’re .40 cal and IMHO the U.S. will stick with 9mm NATO standard.
Personally like the Sig P320, but hear they still need to do some fine tuning for reliability. (A local sheriff department went with Glock 17 over Sig P320 due to reliability.) FWIW.
"Expert after expert will tell you that, if you’re only going to own one pistol, this is the one to get."
First time I ever heard that.
Perhaps someone at least vaguely competent (and the author here isn’t ) could write an article on the topic that was infomative,
Just a thought.
If they won’t accept the screw-up and go back to Ol’ Slabside (1911A1), theni vote Sig!
The P320
Heard the Smith and Wesson M&P is out of contention (shame)
Glock 17/19 looks like a likely choice, the FBI just went to them.
The SIG 320 probably has an inside track (unless reliability comes into question during testing) for the same reason the Glocks might. The grip size can be adjusted for smaller/larger hands, improving accuracy and training.
M&P is good! with two spare mags, the round count is 51! Great if multiple threats are present.
KYPD
Made in America by an American company, please.
Beyond that, it really doesn’t matter so long as it isn’t a piece of junk.
XD. I have 3 and love them all.
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I’ve got several Glock 17’s. Love em. I liked so grip so much I purchased a couple of frames (very easy to buy, but requires ffl) and went with the Mechtech Glock 9mm upper and voila. A nice 9mm carbine that can use my 15 and 33 round Glock mags.
Does anyone know what the testing regimen is like?
I copied the following from a CZ release when they received a NATO Approval:
http://cz-usa.com/press-release/cz-p-01-gets-nato-approval-the-next-generation-of-perfect-pistols/
The pistol must be 100% reliable in extreme conditions, the following is a list of some of the minimum requirements.
Must be able to complete the following without failure:
4000 dry firings
3000 De-cockings
Operator level disassembly 1350 times with out ware or damage to components.
Complete disassembly 150 times, this is all the way down, pins, springs etc.
100% interchangability, any number of pistols randomly selected, disassembled, parts mixed and reassembled with no failures of any kind including loss of accuracy.
Safety requirements:
Drop test
1.5 meter (4.9”) drop test, this is done 54 times with the pistol loaded (blank) and the hammer cocked. Dropping the pistol on the butt, the muzzle, back of the slide, sides of the gun, top of the slide, in essence, any angle that you could drop the gun from. This is done on concrete and 0 failures are allowed! A failure is the gun firing.
3meter drop (9.8”) 5 times with the pistol loaded (blank) and the hammer cocked, This is done on concrete and 0 failures are allowed! A failure is the gun firing.
After these tests are complete the gun must fire without service.
The factory contracted an independent lab to do additional testing on guns that previously passed the drop tests.
These pistol were dropped an additional 352 times without failure.
The pistol must also complete an environmental conditions test:
This means cold, heat, dust/sand and mud.
The pistol must fire after being frozen for 24 hours at –35C (-36F).
The pistol must fire after being heated for 24 hours at 70C (126F)
The pistol must fire after being submerged in mud, sand and combinations including being stripped of oil then completing the sand and mud tests again.
S&W has already been ruled out, for whatever reason.
Just as long as it shoots the fanatic stopping .45 ACP.
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Nothing wrong with any of them.
But it will all come down to reliability and per unit cost in the end. I think they will probably require something with an actual/visible safety lever too.
XDM or M&P.
While the Glocks are just as reliable their factory triggers are about the worst I’ve ever used. Not to mention their beefy & bulky grips.
The company that made the largest donation to the Clinton Foundation will win the contract.
The FiveseveN is basically a rifle cartridge shot out of a pistol, and has virtually no recoil so follow-up shots are on target. The good ammo while small in caliber crates cavitation on par with .45 ACP. In addition, the 20 round magazines hold nearly 3 times that of the 1911, at a fraction of the weight.
If money were no object this would be the choice hands down. Keep in mind that this gun is used to protect the Queen of England, and the bullpup version, the P90, is used by the Secret Service to Protect the President of the United States. Speaks volumes about this gun and this cartridge.