[BroJoeK]

DiogenesLamp: "The Declaration gives all people the right to be independent and to form a government that suits their interests, you know, the way the 13 slave owning colonies did."

Nothing in the Declaration of Independence says or implies that if you provoke, start and formally declare war on the United States, you must necessarily expect to win.
Why would such a simple concept be so difficult for DiogenesLamp to grasp?

[DiogenesLamp]

Not going to accept your bullsh*t pronouncements either.

Lincoln started the war. He did so deliberately and with malice aforethought.