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Trump will use 4 real estate business tricks to rebuild the US
CNBC ^ | January 14, 2017 | Jay N. Rollins

Posted on 01/14/2017 11:39:17 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

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To: NonValueAdded

When Reagan took office in January 1981, the IRS was taking in $550 billion per year.

When Reagan left office eight years later, the IRS was taking in $900 billion per year.

The idiot liberal think the size of the pie is finite...it is not. It can be expanded in size.


21 posted on 01/14/2017 12:19:52 PM PST by july4thfreedomfoundation (January 20, 2017....America's liberation day approaches.....)
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To: Jim Robinson

Donald Trump doesn’t pursue just any property. It’s got to have huge potential to get huge investment.


22 posted on 01/14/2017 12:20:40 PM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

These guys refuse to learn from Reagan. Reducing stifling tax rates increase revenue because it increases business activity, causes now businesses to be built or relocated from offshore. These people think that the income tax at 100% would raise revenue to equal all the taxable income every year and the taxable income would not be reduced. They think that revenue will actually increase from year to year because people will work ever harder trying to maintain their lifestyle. These people have post graduate degrees.


23 posted on 01/14/2017 12:21:41 PM PST by arthurus
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To: Drango
You must not remember the 1980's. And few remember the early 1960's. The problem in both cases was a Democrat Congress that spent every extra dime of revenue and more on every social boondoggle they could imagine.

The relationship between tax rates and revenues is complicated. The latter is far more closely tied to economic activity and if adjusting the former downward enhances economic growth revenue will actually increase. This has been demonstrated many times. But for Democrats how economics work is always a zero sum game. For me to have something I must have taken it from someone else. Projection on their part since thievery is a part of their very nature.

24 posted on 01/14/2017 12:22:44 PM PST by katana
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To: volunbeer

The interstate highway system wasn’t stimulus spending. It was about boldly improving transportation in America. That infra-structure improvement has paid back a million times its cost.


25 posted on 01/14/2017 12:25:22 PM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...This dichotomy is reflected in the markets today. We are seeing the stock market reach record highs on hopes of lower taxes, less regulation and big government spending, while the bond market (usually the smarter market) is seeing increased interest rates, a reflection of the risk in Trump's strategy...

I am not certain why this bozo thinks the bond market is "usually the smarter market", but for the pat 100 years long term stock returns have been better than bond returns.

And, the reason bonds are seeing higher interest rates is the Fed raising rates, which is not because of the "risk in Trump's strategy." I suspect the Fed is about to go to war with DJT and try to kill the recovery he is trying to give us. Epic battle. I am rooting for Trump.

26 posted on 01/14/2017 12:32:28 PM PST by CurlyDave
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To: xzins

Agree on the interstates and think Trump has a good idea of “where” it needs to be spent, unlike solar panels and unicorns of the left.

That is not what we have really gotten in the last rounds of stimulus spending. I think we can do this without the sugar high from debt spending - his economic ideas and principles are very sound. Once and for all, I would love to see us PROVE we are right and they are wrong without it involving additional debt on our children and grandchildren.

I am still very happy with Trump and I trust him - I view our debt and deficit spending a bit more harshly than others do. It is beyond time to get our fiscal house in order and that would be as effective in restoring faith in America as Trump’s promised policies. We need a balanced budget amendment and we need discipline as a nation or this cycle of insanity will continue.

There is no way congress can keep their little piggy fingers out of the stimulus pie. It’s made them wealthy before and they will get wealthy again. Anyone who thinks Trump is going to direct the spending (and not congress) is in for disappointment. Hope I am wrong, but that is the way I see it.


27 posted on 01/14/2017 12:33:34 PM PST by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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To: Drango

By simultaneously decreasing the country’s revenue and increasing its expenses,
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So they equate “the government” with “the country”?


28 posted on 01/14/2017 12:34:53 PM PST by Neidermeyer (Bill Clinton is a 5 star general in the WAR ON WOMEN and Hillary is his Goebbels.)
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To: CurlyDave

> And, the reason bonds are seeing higher interest rates is the Fed raising rates, which is not because of the “risk in Trump’s strategy.” I suspect the Fed is about to go to war with DJT and try to kill the recovery he is trying to give us. Epic battle. I am rooting for Trump.

You nailed it. It’s the fed jerking the rate up. There’s going to be a recession or depression next year the only question is how fast Trump can pull us out of it. If he gets us out of it quickly then we’ll win a super majority in both houses in 2020.


29 posted on 01/14/2017 12:35:26 PM PST by RedWulf (TRUMP TRUMP TRUMP!)
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To: dp0622

Regulations cost the US economy $2 trillion yearly.


30 posted on 01/14/2017 1:01:57 PM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: volunbeer

Maybe if he insisted on a project list with specific physical construction projects asvthe heart of the bill....and the projected cost of each.


31 posted on 01/14/2017 1:20:17 PM PST by xzins (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner.)
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To: volunbeer

Only the infrastructure plan is stimulus building. Everything else is tariff and tax reform and government downsizing.

Obama did an infrastructure plan that went to his bundlers and went to increasing government programs that then had to be funded every year afterwards. They rolled the “one time” stimulus plan into the budget, just like Obama rolled the war costs that Bush had kept separate into the budget.

Trump will really spend the money on infrastructure and he will really get value for what is spent.

Infrastructure plans are different than tax cuts in that more of the money gets spent immediately into the economy than tax cuts when tend to get saved. Both are good in the right circumstances.

And Infrastructure plans don’t cost as much as their face value becaus 15 to 20% comes back to the treasure in income tax. Probably a lot more by the time you consider the velocity of money and that the money will be taxed multiple times. Plus it gets people off the welfare roles which saves money too.

Don’t expect this to be Obama’s stimulus redux and don’t ignore the many aspects of Trump’s overall plan that is not stimulus spending.

If Trump cuts government as much as I expect him to, he needs a stimulus plan to help soften the economic blow from all the government jobs that will be lost.


32 posted on 01/14/2017 1:27:08 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: volunbeer

Only the infrastructure plan is stimulus building. Everything else is tariff and tax reform and government downsizing.

Obama did an infrastructure plan that went to his bundlers and went to increasing government programs that then had to be funded every year afterwards. They rolled the “one time” stimulus plan into the budget, just like Obama rolled the war costs that Bush had kept separate into the budget.

Trump will really spend the money on infrastructure and he will really get value for what is spent.

Infrastructure plans are different than tax cuts in that more of the money gets spent immediately into the economy than tax cuts when tend to get saved. Both are good in the right circumstances.

And Infrastructure plans don’t cost as much as their face value becaus 15 to 20% comes back to the treasure in income tax. Probably a lot more by the time you consider the velocity of money and that the money will be taxed multiple times. Plus it gets people off the welfare roles which saves money too.

Don’t expect this to be Obama’s stimulus redux and don’t ignore the many aspects of Trump’s overall plan that is not stimulus spending.

If Trump cuts government as much as I expect him to, he needs a stimulus plan to help soften the economic blow from all the government jobs that will be lost.


33 posted on 01/14/2017 1:27:08 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: Jim Robinson

Heh....good one.


34 posted on 01/14/2017 1:55:58 PM PST by Liz
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To: dp0622

There is no need to spend a single cent on upgrading infrastructure. Our transportation system was originally built with private capital. I’m no financial wizard, but why not let private industry build roads, bridges and railroads and allow them to collect tolls. Build power plants and charge rent. We still collect taxes on their profits. Sunset the charges so that we don’t pay forever.


35 posted on 01/14/2017 2:02:54 PM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
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To: Jonty30

Really?!?!!

I can believe it but I wish I would have read that article. It must have had incredible information.

That’s an incredible amount.

this country is gonna explode!!!


36 posted on 01/14/2017 2:04:32 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

It is just the useful idiots that think that.

The fellow travelers know this, and hate it: They want to shrink the pie (along with the white, Christian population).


37 posted on 01/14/2017 2:16:26 PM PST by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - JRRT)
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To: NTHockey

What a ####ing waste of great ideas people come up with on here.

I’ve read at least 3 or 4 really good ones the past few days alone.

Sunset the charges...that’s great. I’ve never heard of the term before.

BUT the Verrazano bridge toll was supposed to be sunsetted (is that a word :)) after the bridge was paid OFF!!!!

That was 40 years ago and the toll is SIXTEEN DOLLARS!! YES SIXTEEN DOLLARS!!!! Staten Islanders get a discount.

Someone’s gotta pay for obama’s sons in the bronx


38 posted on 01/14/2017 2:20:19 PM PST by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Neidermeyer; Drango
By simultaneously decreasing the country’s revenue and increasing its expenses,
So they equate “the government” with “the country”?
They do that systematically. Back when W was running in 2000, he said that “Texas spends X” on hospitals. The Democrats said that the Texas budget said otherwise. But W meant that hospitals in Texas took in X. Which meant that Texas society and Texas government, spent that much.
SOME writers have so confounded society with government, as to leave little or no distinction between them; whereas they are not only different, but have different origins. Society is produced by our wants, and government by our wickedness; the former promotes our happiness POSITIVELY by uniting our affections, the latter NEGATIVELY by restraining our vices. The one encourages intercourse, the other creates distinctions. The first is a patron, the last a punisher.

Society in every state is a blessing, but Government, even in its best state, is but a necessary evil . . . were the impulses of conscience clear, uniform and irresistibly obeyed, man would need no other lawgiver - Thomas Paine, Common Sense (1776)

”Liberals” love to use “society” as a euphemism for government. But by doing so they set a (necessary) evil equal to a positive good.

39 posted on 01/14/2017 2:24:48 PM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion
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To: DannyTN

What you wrote is true if he can keep the piggy fingers out of the pie.

Congress loves their pork and they stabbed the TEA party movement in the back over and over. I do not trust them and we will learn much by how any stimulus is negotiated.


40 posted on 01/14/2017 3:06:57 PM PST by volunbeer (Clinton Cash = Proof of Corruption)
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