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Haunting Photos of #Carmageddon: Hyundai Gets Crushed, as GM, Ford, Others Struggle
Wolf Street ^ | 02 June 2017 | Wolf Richter

Posted on 06/05/2017 10:44:07 AM PDT by Lorianne

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To: Mariner

The best pickup I ever had was a ‘63 Chevy 3/4T long bed fleetside with a big 6 cyl engine and 3 on the tree. I could haul 3,000 lbs on it like nobody’s business. Then I changed occupations and never needed a truck after that.


41 posted on 06/05/2017 11:34:23 AM PDT by Tucker39 (Known as the Father of modern agriculture)
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To: Mariner

You are way wrong on this one. All the ones that want this cheap basic truck are the ones that buy one every 15 or 20 years. I hear this all the time, but reality is that nobody wants a base anything. If this were true, they’d all be building them already.


42 posted on 06/05/2017 11:35:04 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: Freedom56v2

What’s kept me out is this driverless car thing. Some nuts are proposing non human driving areas in as little as five years.

Plus though i usually like sports cars, the mazda 6 my wife got 10 years ago when I was sick runs great still.

Took a 35 mph hit in the back while we were standing still with almost no damage.

Plus what you’re telling me now, more confuse than ever and don’t know if i want a new bill.


43 posted on 06/05/2017 11:36:28 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Red Badger

Looking for new. He anywhere around nyc?

Or were you joking? :)


44 posted on 06/05/2017 11:37:25 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: Grampa Dave

Thanks.

What to get has been an issue. Not 35 anymore. Trying to find an age appropriate car for a 49 year old that I still like.

I’m incredibly immature :), but don’t want my car to show it!


45 posted on 06/05/2017 11:39:11 AM PDT by dp0622 (The only thing an upper crust Conservative hates more than a liberal is a middle class conservative)
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To: dp0622

Nope, we’re in Florida panhandle, Destin/Ft. Walton Beach...................


46 posted on 06/05/2017 11:41:20 AM PDT by Red Badger (You can't assimilate one whose entire reason for being here is to not assimilate in the first place.)
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To: meyer
Crash tests + mileage requirements.

New cars have engine designs that used to be found only in Formula 1 cars to meet pollution and mileage requirements. Plus the 8 - 9 speed automatics.

This has to adding somewhere between $5000 - $10000 in costs for the engines and transmissions to new cars, if not more.

It also makes them impossible to repair when they break down: they'll have to be re-manufactured.

47 posted on 06/05/2017 11:49:54 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Mariner
Have you heard of CAFE?

This is why we are seeing V-6 trucks with turbochargers, aluminum bodies, 10 speed gear boxes, etc.

And its arguably worse for passenger cars. This is why we're seeing all sorts of 'toy' cars out there.

The auto companies don't have high margins on these toys. So they mark up the luxury vehicles...and truck's are today's luxury vehicle.

CAFE was enacted for ONE reason - to wean ourselves off of OPEC. But suggest scrapping it today, in the midst of an energy revolution, and you're branded as an environmental heretic.

48 posted on 06/05/2017 11:52:19 AM PDT by lacrew
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To: JoSixChip

About $40,000 for an F150 truck and you think that is a good deal? Wow...Too rich for my taste. Good luck with that.


49 posted on 06/05/2017 11:52:51 AM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Mariner
You can thank CAFE standards for never getting that.

Auto manufacturers have to subsidize by many thousands the purchase of hybrids/electric vehicles to get their fleet fuel economy to today's requirements.

How many hybrids do you have to sell to “offset” a low mileage pickup? As the hybrids aren't selling and still use fuel, many car companies are sending many thousands to Elon Musk and having him be their offset.

So you are paying Elon Musk $5,000 to buy that pickup. Isn't life grand for him?

50 posted on 06/05/2017 11:53:30 AM PDT by ConservativeMind (Trump: Befuddling Democrats, Republicans, and the Media for the benefit of the US and all mankind.)
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To: Mariner

$18k, remove radio,AC,PS. Install 4cyl around 150 cid. Guess what that is my 1991 GMC Somona.... Better make it $15k.


51 posted on 06/05/2017 11:53:56 AM PDT by swhiteman
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To: dp0622

Ford Fusion Sport and Ford Taurus SHO are relatively incognito.

Audis don’t attract as much attention as other lux brands. SQ5 is a hot rod smaller SUV that isn’t noticeably flashy.


52 posted on 06/05/2017 11:56:46 AM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Lorianne

I think it might take a little while, but President Trump will help auto sales.

The Democrats are awful for auto sales.


53 posted on 06/05/2017 11:57:07 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Red Badger

Makes sense to go there one or two months before the lease is up to make a deal.


54 posted on 06/05/2017 12:04:26 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Rudy Guiuliani for Head of FBI)
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To: dragnet2

I’d like a new F150, but they’ve priced me out of the market...I COULD, but just won’t pay their sky high, loaded up, nickel-dime you to death sticker prices...

The auto makers, with ample help from unions, enviros, and DC, have done it to themselves...

It makes better economic sense for me to keep my Ranger running, it’s paid for, I have a good mechanic to back me up for things I can’t do to it, and good local salvage yards...

Figure I’m good to go for another 100K, and at my age the ol’ girl may be the last truck I need...


55 posted on 06/05/2017 12:13:16 PM PDT by elteemike (Light travels faster than sound...That's why so many people appear bright until you hear them speak)
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To: pajama pundit

Oh my 52K that’s insane.


56 posted on 06/05/2017 12:13:38 PM PDT by angcat (THANK YOU LORD FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP!!!!!)
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To: Lorianne

After the boating season this year I will sell my boat cause the wifey deserves a new car. I’m thinking Hyundai and getting a sweet deal:-)


57 posted on 06/05/2017 12:24:00 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: nikos1121

Give them a low ball offer on the car. Take it or leave it!


58 posted on 06/05/2017 12:26:42 PM PDT by Harpotoo
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To: Harpotoo

I’ve had great success buying low mile Lexus off eBay from NON Lexus car dealers. You have to be patient, but you can get your car for a lot less.

Your advice is good. I better have plan B set up, which would be to start looking well in advance.


59 posted on 06/05/2017 12:39:07 PM PDT by nikos1121 (Rudy Guiuliani for Head of FBI)
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To: pierrem15
Crash tests + mileage requirements.

The sad thing is, minus the crash test mandates, you could easily get the mileage because the vehicles would be much lighter. I remember my first Ranger - a 1982 1/2 short bed. It weighed 3000 pounds, had a 2.3 liter 4 cylinder engine and a 4 speed stick (they hadn't developed the 5 speed yet). I regularly got 30 mpg on the highway at 60 mph or so.

Fast forward to the mid 90s and the Rangers had gained 1000 pounds. And the mileage fell proportionately. Recreate that 3000 pound truck and you'd have a mileage king with today's engines. But you would undoubtedly not meet the latest crash tests.

60 posted on 06/05/2017 12:46:53 PM PDT by meyer (The Constitution says what it says, and it doesn't say what it doesn't say.)
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